July 9, 2026

DTN Podcast | Jim Alstott Ep. 67 | From Atheist to Evidential Medium, Dr. Lotte Valentin's Incredible Story

DTN Podcast | Jim Alstott Ep. 67 | From Atheist to Evidential Medium, Dr. Lotte Valentin's Incredible Story
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Can two near-death experiences completely transform your understanding of life, death, and consciousness?

In this powerful episode of Drop the Needle Podcast, Jim Alstott sits down with Dr. Lotte Valentin, a physician, evidential medium, ancestral healer, and former atheist, to explore the extraordinary experiences that changed the course of her life.

Raised with a scientific worldview, Dr. Valentin never believed in God, the afterlife, or mediumship. But after surviving two near-death experiences, she found herself outside her body, praying to a God she didn't believe in, hearing messages from loved ones who had passed, and discovering abilities she never knew she possessed.

Together, Jim and Dr. Valentin explore the intersection of science, spirituality, consciousness, intuition, ancestral healing, epigenetics, Kundalini awakening, DMT, and the evidence surrounding life after death.

Whether you're skeptical, spiritual, or simply curious, this conversation invites you to explore some of life's biggest questions with an open mind.

In this episode:

✔️ Two life-changing near-death experiences (NDEs)

✔️ From atheist to evidential medium

✔️ What happens during an out-of-body experience?

✔️ Can consciousness survive physical death?

✔️ Ancestral healing and inherited trauma

✔️ Epigenetics and spiritual healing

✔️ Intuition, mediumship, and divine guidance

✔️ Kundalini awakening explained

✔️ DMT and altered states of consciousness

✔️ Why everyone's spiritual journey is different

Sound Bites

“I prayed to God to save my life.”

“I heard my sister-in-law talking to me.”

“I had a choice. I could stay if I wanted.”

“I am a born medium; it was always there.”

“We come with a personal agenda in life.”

“The hardest part of love is letting go.”

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Dr. Lotte Valentin

02:54 Dr. Lotte's Journey from Atheism to Spirituality

05:56 Near-Death Experiences: The First Encounter

11:58 The Second Near-Death Experience and Spiritual Awakening

17:49 Understanding the Spirit World and Ancestral Healing

24:04 Interconnectedness and the Nature of Existence

31:10 Navigating Life's Challenges and Personal Growth

34:59 Experiencing the Spirit World and Intuition

39:41 The Connection Between Past and Future

42:59 The Science of Frequencies and Healing

51:37 Understanding Ancestral Healing and Its Impact

58:17 Interconnectedness and Divine Guidance

59:43 Experiencing Unraveling and Upgrades

1:06:23 Kundalini Awakening and Spiritual Journeys

1:10:15 DMT and Near-Death Experiences

1:12:53 Different Paths to Spiritual Awareness

1:14:02 Musical Reflections and Personal Connections

Playlist link:

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/19dtNkdWv1nuO16aktw4v0?si=c825cdccf8fd4fcf

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Guest Links

Website — DrLotte.com

Spiritual Site — DivineSpiritualEssence.com

Instagram — @dr.lottevalentin

Facebook — Dr. Lotte Valentin

LinkedIn — Dr. Lotte Valentin

Book — Med School after Menopause: The Journey of my Soul


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[2] 00:00:06.820 --> 00:00:08.640 Podcast, your backstage pass to [3] 00:00:09.140 --> 00:00:09.920 the mystical realm. I'm your [4] 00:00:10.420 --> 00:00:11.360 host, Jim Alstatt. And here, [5] 00:00:11.860 --> 00:00:13.200 gifted souls step up to the mic [6] 00:00:13.700 --> 00:00:14.680 sharing their spiritual journey. [7] 00:00:15.180 --> 00:00:16.400 We're hitting the high notes and [8] 00:00:16.900 --> 00:00:17.440 the low notes of their [9] 00:00:17.940 --> 00:00:19.360 awakening, creating a symphony [10] 00:00:19.860 --> 00:00:21.240 of enlightenment. This isn't [11] 00:00:21.740 --> 00:00:22.480 just another interview show. [12] 00:00:22.980 --> 00:00:24.120 This is where divine insights [13] 00:00:24.620 --> 00:00:25.840 are channeled and universal [14] 00:00:26.340 --> 00:00:28.360 truths are revealed. So crank up [15] 00:00:28.860 --> 00:00:29.840 your stereo and sit back, [16] 00:00:30.340 --> 00:00:31.360 because who knows, this just [18] 00:00:33.480 --> 00:00:34.620 transformative chapter of your [19] 00:00:35.120 --> 00:00:36.620 soul's purpose. Are you ready? [20] 00:00:37.100 --> 00:00:40.740 Let's go. This is the Drop [21] 00:00:41.240 --> 00:00:42.140 the Needle Podcast and I'm Jim [22] 00:00:42.640 --> 00:00:45.660 Alstatt. My guest today was a [23] 00:00:46.160 --> 00:00:49.020 committed atheist until two near [24] 00:00:49.520 --> 00:00:50.500 death experiences cracked the [25] 00:00:51.000 --> 00:00:52.780 world wide open. She went to [26] 00:00:53.280 --> 00:00:56.180 Medical School at 54, trained as [27] 00:00:56.680 --> 00:00:57.780 an evidential medium in England, [28] 00:00:58.280 --> 00:00:59.980 and now helps people heal wounds [29] 00:01:00.140 --> 00:01:02.890 they inherited, but never earn [30] 00:01:03.450 --> 00:01:04.970 the bridge between science and [31] 00:01:05.470 --> 00:01:06.890 soul walking and talking. [32] 00:01:07.690 --> 00:01:10.410 [33] 00:01:10.910 --> 00:01:13.130 Valentin. Welcome, Lottie. Oh, [34] 00:01:13.630 --> 00:01:14.330 thank you, Jim. It's such a [35] 00:01:14.830 --> 00:01:16.250 pleasure to be here. You know, [36] 00:01:16.490 --> 00:01:20.090 I am beyond excited to have you [37] 00:01:20.330 --> 00:01:23.290 on, I really am, because you and [38] 00:01:23.790 --> 00:01:25.890 I had an opportunity to speak [39] 00:01:26.390 --> 00:01:27.490 beforehand, which I normally do [40] 00:01:27.990 --> 00:01:29.810 with all of the guests, to do a [41] 00:01:30.310 --> 00:01:31.850 pre show call just to see if we [42] 00:01:32.330 --> 00:01:34.270 vibe and all that good stuff. [43] 00:01:34.770 --> 00:01:36.950 But one step further. We went [44] 00:01:37.450 --> 00:01:39.990 one step further and I was [45] 00:01:40.490 --> 00:01:42.430 actually able to have an [46] 00:01:42.930 --> 00:01:43.790 ancestral healing session with [47] 00:01:44.290 --> 00:01:44.790 you, which we'll talk about [49] 00:01:48.810 --> 00:01:49.910 find that pretty interesting. [50] 00:01:50.550 --> 00:01:54.070 But now, Dr. Laddi, can you do [51] 00:01:54.550 --> 00:01:56.390 me a favor? And everyone else, [52] 00:01:56.550 --> 00:01:58.390 can you take a moment and let [53] 00:01:58.890 --> 00:01:59.830 people get to know you a bit, [54] 00:02:00.550 --> 00:02:03.110 give us your background. Yes, [55] 00:02:04.070 --> 00:02:05.830 I was actually born and raised [56] 00:02:06.330 --> 00:02:07.470 in Europe, in northern Europe, [57] 00:02:07.970 --> 00:02:08.910 in Sweden, which is part of [58] 00:02:09.410 --> 00:02:10.830 Scandinavia. So you got Norway, [59] 00:02:11.330 --> 00:02:12.830 Sweden, Finland, and people [60] 00:02:13.330 --> 00:02:13.870 often confuse it with [61] 00:02:14.370 --> 00:02:15.470 Switzerland and the Alps. But [62] 00:02:15.970 --> 00:02:17.550 Sweden is further north. So [63] 00:02:18.050 --> 00:02:19.750 think reindeer and polar bears. [65] 00:02:21.570 --> 00:02:24.750 Circle. Oh, okay, ok. We do have [66] 00:02:25.250 --> 00:02:26.110 reindeer, you know, Santa's [67] 00:02:26.610 --> 00:02:27.430 reindeer. They actually, [68] 00:02:27.990 --> 00:02:29.550 they're reindeer herders in the [69] 00:02:30.050 --> 00:02:31.680 northern part of Sweden. Okay, [70] 00:02:31.840 --> 00:02:33.680 right. So very different. I grew [71] 00:02:34.180 --> 00:02:35.880 up in Stockholm, which is more [72] 00:02:36.380 --> 00:02:37.840 in the middle or a little bit [73] 00:02:37.920 --> 00:02:39.960 further south in the middle in [74] 00:02:40.460 --> 00:02:41.520 the capital or in the suburb of [75] 00:02:42.020 --> 00:02:44.160 the capital. And back when I [76] 00:02:44.660 --> 00:02:46.320 grew up in the 1960s and 70s, [77] 00:02:46.960 --> 00:02:48.920 the state and the church had not [78] 00:02:49.420 --> 00:02:51.000 yet separated. So if you were [79] 00:02:51.500 --> 00:02:52.680 [80] 00:02:53.180 --> 00:02:54.960 born 1958, you were [81] 00:02:55.460 --> 00:02:56.760 automatically a Lutheran. And if [82] 00:02:57.260 --> 00:02:57.680 you didn't want to be a [83] 00:02:58.180 --> 00:02:59.360 Lutheran, you would have to tell [84] 00:02:59.860 --> 00:03:00.960 somebody. So you were [85] 00:03:01.460 --> 00:03:02.640 automatically a Lutheran. And [86] 00:03:02.940 --> 00:03:04.900 when we needed a passport, we [87] 00:03:05.400 --> 00:03:06.940 went to the Church to get. Oh, [88] 00:03:07.440 --> 00:03:10.100 really? Yes. Wow. And I think it [89] 00:03:10.600 --> 00:03:12.500 was during the 70s when I was [90] 00:03:13.000 --> 00:03:13.900 like, junior high, high school, [91] 00:03:14.060 --> 00:03:15.620 the church and the state finally [92] 00:03:16.120 --> 00:03:19.660 separated, and I met my American [93] 00:03:20.540 --> 00:03:21.940 husband in high school. He was [94] 00:03:22.440 --> 00:03:23.340 an exchange student in my high [96] 00:03:25.980 --> 00:03:28.180 And then I got married and I [97] 00:03:28.680 --> 00:03:30.310 moved to the United States in [98] 00:03:30.810 --> 00:03:33.990 1979, and he had one year left [99] 00:03:34.070 --> 00:03:36.150 at Boston University. And I [100] 00:03:36.650 --> 00:03:38.430 worked as a secretary at the [101] 00:03:38.930 --> 00:03:39.790 biomedical engineering [102] 00:03:40.290 --> 00:03:42.150 department at Boston University [103] 00:03:43.110 --> 00:03:45.709 when we came here. And then the [104] 00:03:46.209 --> 00:03:47.750 professors there convinced me [105] 00:03:48.250 --> 00:03:49.070 that I should transfer from [106] 00:03:49.570 --> 00:03:50.790 Stockholm's university in Sweden [107] 00:03:50.870 --> 00:03:52.550 to Boston University, and they [108] 00:03:53.050 --> 00:03:53.790 really wanted me to study [109] 00:03:54.290 --> 00:03:55.430 engineering. They said, you have [110] 00:03:55.930 --> 00:03:56.430 a knack for this. You know, [112] 00:03:58.610 --> 00:03:59.230 know, you should study computer [113] 00:03:59.730 --> 00:04:01.450 science. I said to myself, I [114] 00:04:01.950 --> 00:04:05.330 just can't do that. I said, no, [115] 00:04:05.830 --> 00:04:07.250 I'll do business. Because [116] 00:04:07.650 --> 00:04:09.570 growing up in Sweden, we major [117] 00:04:09.810 --> 00:04:12.170 in high school. And so if you're [118] 00:04:12.670 --> 00:04:13.970 going to be a doctor or a nurse, [119] 00:04:14.470 --> 00:04:15.929 you go the science line in high [120] 00:04:16.429 --> 00:04:17.890 school. And so we go from high [121] 00:04:18.390 --> 00:04:19.610 school straight into nursing, [122] 00:04:20.110 --> 00:04:21.010 straight into medical school, [123] 00:04:21.330 --> 00:04:22.770 straight into study to be a [124] 00:04:23.270 --> 00:04:24.130 lawyer. We don't have that four [125] 00:04:24.630 --> 00:04:26.170 years because we do those years [126] 00:04:26.670 --> 00:04:28.570 [127] 00:04:29.070 --> 00:04:30.090 it's set up is three years of [128] 00:04:30.590 --> 00:04:31.450 junior high and three years of [129] 00:04:31.950 --> 00:04:34.790 high school. Okay. So back then, [130] 00:04:35.290 --> 00:04:36.070 all my teachers said I was very [131] 00:04:36.570 --> 00:04:37.230 good, you know, in chemistry and [132] 00:04:37.730 --> 00:04:38.550 physics and all of that. And we [133] 00:04:39.050 --> 00:04:40.030 do a lot of that in junior high. [134] 00:04:40.350 --> 00:04:41.670 And they said, oh, you should go [135] 00:04:42.170 --> 00:04:43.430 the science line. And I said to [136] 00:04:43.930 --> 00:04:45.230 myself, again, I can't do that. [137] 00:04:46.190 --> 00:04:47.310 I'm not gonna have. I'm not [138] 00:04:47.810 --> 00:04:49.030 gonna meet anybody. They know [139] 00:04:49.530 --> 00:04:50.950 they're all very nerdy. And I [140] 00:04:51.450 --> 00:04:52.430 wanted to be in the popular [141] 00:04:52.930 --> 00:04:54.230 group. I mean, you're 14, 15 [143] 00:04:56.130 --> 00:04:57.550 these decisions. So I made [144] 00:04:57.790 --> 00:05:00.270 decisions as a teenager. Wow. [145] 00:05:00.720 --> 00:05:03.480 Yes. And so I said, no, I'm [146] 00:05:03.980 --> 00:05:04.760 going to major in languages and [147] 00:05:05.260 --> 00:05:06.040 business. So I majored in [148] 00:05:06.540 --> 00:05:07.200 languages and business in high [149] 00:05:07.700 --> 00:05:08.920 school. So then here I am at [150] 00:05:09.420 --> 00:05:10.640 Boston University working as a [151] 00:05:10.720 --> 00:05:12.080 biomedical engineering [152] 00:05:12.580 --> 00:05:13.960 departmental secretary, typing [153] 00:05:14.460 --> 00:05:16.120 research papers on not [154] 00:05:16.620 --> 00:05:19.360 computers, but typewriters back [155] 00:05:19.860 --> 00:05:21.280 then. And I had no idea what I [156] 00:05:21.780 --> 00:05:22.320 was typing because they were all [157] 00:05:22.820 --> 00:05:23.800 science words. And you don't [159] 00:05:25.580 --> 00:05:26.920 know, school English. You learn [160] 00:05:27.420 --> 00:05:28.240 conversational English. So [161] 00:05:28.480 --> 00:05:29.920 every. All the words were just. [162] 00:05:30.420 --> 00:05:32.120 I was just letters. I had no [163] 00:05:32.620 --> 00:05:33.340 idea. Idea what I was typing [164] 00:05:33.840 --> 00:05:35.860 sometimes. Anyway, so I decided [165] 00:05:36.360 --> 00:05:36.860 to major in business and [166] 00:05:37.360 --> 00:05:39.580 computer science. And out of [167] 00:05:40.080 --> 00:05:42.620 college, I was working for IBM [168] 00:05:43.120 --> 00:05:44.220 in Westchester County, New York, [169] 00:05:44.620 --> 00:05:45.940 for the America Far East [170] 00:05:46.440 --> 00:05:47.740 Corporation headquarters in [171] 00:05:48.240 --> 00:05:51.380 Tarrytown. New York. And then I [172] 00:05:51.880 --> 00:05:52.900 started having kids and my [173] 00:05:53.400 --> 00:05:54.580 [174] 00:05:55.080 --> 00:05:56.860 California, and so I took a [175] 00:05:57.360 --> 00:05:58.140 leave of absence and eventually [176] 00:05:58.640 --> 00:05:59.540 I ended up having to leave IBM [177] 00:06:00.040 --> 00:06:00.700 because then I had another child [178] 00:06:01.310 --> 00:06:02.910 and then I had a third child, [179] 00:06:03.550 --> 00:06:05.750 and we were living in Southern [180] 00:06:06.250 --> 00:06:07.830 California, and this is where my [181] 00:06:08.330 --> 00:06:10.470 life really took a turn. So [182] 00:06:10.970 --> 00:06:12.070 growing up in that Swedish [183] 00:06:12.570 --> 00:06:14.510 society, I was confirmed when I [184] 00:06:15.010 --> 00:06:16.190 was 14 with, you know, a lot of [185] 00:06:16.690 --> 00:06:18.470 my friends. It was kind of more, [186] 00:06:18.970 --> 00:06:19.750 you know, tradition, this is [187] 00:06:20.250 --> 00:06:21.910 what you do kind of thing. And I [188] 00:06:22.410 --> 00:06:24.030 had no belief system. And it's [190] 00:06:26.370 --> 00:06:27.840 physician and he grew up going [191] 00:06:28.340 --> 00:06:29.200 to Sunday school since he was [192] 00:06:29.700 --> 00:06:30.600 three years old. I mean, he knew [193] 00:06:31.100 --> 00:06:31.800 the Bible backwards and forward. [194] 00:06:32.680 --> 00:06:34.600 And he said, no, I am not going [195] 00:06:35.100 --> 00:06:36.200 to push that on my own children [196] 00:06:37.240 --> 00:06:38.400 for whatever reason. And he [197] 00:06:38.900 --> 00:06:39.600 said, when you grow up, you [198] 00:06:40.100 --> 00:06:41.120 decide what religion is right [199] 00:06:41.620 --> 00:06:43.960 for you. And that's how I grew [200] 00:06:44.460 --> 00:06:45.200 up. So I was never forced to go [201] 00:06:45.700 --> 00:06:46.240 to church, though I was [202] 00:06:46.740 --> 00:06:49.480 confirmed. And then my life took [203] 00:06:49.980 --> 00:06:51.600 a turn after I had my third [204] 00:06:52.100 --> 00:06:53.320 child and had my first near [206] 00:06:57.520 --> 00:06:58.740 so we're gonna, we're gonna [207] 00:06:59.240 --> 00:07:02.340 drill down into some of those [208] 00:07:02.420 --> 00:07:05.020 here in, in just a moment. And [209] 00:07:05.520 --> 00:07:06.300 when we start asking some [210] 00:07:06.800 --> 00:07:07.420 questions, and I hope you don't [211] 00:07:07.920 --> 00:07:10.539 mind. Yeah. Because that's [212] 00:07:11.039 --> 00:07:12.940 something that I have found to [213] 00:07:13.440 --> 00:07:15.500 be a common thread with a lot of [214] 00:07:16.000 --> 00:07:18.820 people's gifts opening up. [215] 00:07:18.900 --> 00:07:22.720 Right. And I'd like [216] 00:07:23.220 --> 00:07:26.880 to, and I'm sure you've talked [217] 00:07:27.380 --> 00:07:29.240 about this over and over again [218] 00:07:30.040 --> 00:07:33.720 to ad nauseam, but can you maybe [219] 00:07:35.080 --> 00:07:38.600 explain to people what it was [220] 00:07:39.100 --> 00:07:40.440 [221] 00:07:40.520 --> 00:07:43.560 else that was going on with [222] 00:07:44.060 --> 00:07:45.360 that? Yeah. So I was [223] 00:07:45.860 --> 00:07:47.320 hemorrhaging after I gave birth [224] 00:07:48.390 --> 00:07:50.590 to my daughter, and I [225] 00:07:51.090 --> 00:07:51.790 hemorrhaged after birth. And [226] 00:07:52.290 --> 00:07:53.270 then I hemorrhaged 10 days [227] 00:07:53.770 --> 00:07:55.030 later, 11 days later, 12 days [228] 00:07:55.530 --> 00:07:56.710 later, and I went to the ER. [229] 00:07:57.210 --> 00:07:58.030 They sent me home. I went to the [230] 00:07:58.530 --> 00:07:59.230 doctor, they sent me home. This [231] 00:07:59.730 --> 00:08:01.750 is 1992. And I ended back up in [232] 00:08:02.250 --> 00:08:04.670 the ER, and, you know, I had [233] 00:08:05.170 --> 00:08:05.910 lost so much blood by now [234] 00:08:06.410 --> 00:08:07.030 because it's like the third day [235] 00:08:07.530 --> 00:08:09.910 of hemorrhaging in a row. And as [237] 00:08:12.530 --> 00:08:14.350 ER and I can hear the room [238] 00:08:14.850 --> 00:08:15.750 filling with people, I got a [239] 00:08:16.250 --> 00:08:17.070 nurse on my right quoting my [240] 00:08:17.570 --> 00:08:18.710 blood pressure. I got a nurse on [241] 00:08:19.210 --> 00:08:20.270 my left trying to place an iv, [242] 00:08:20.770 --> 00:08:21.670 but I'm not going into shock, [243] 00:08:22.170 --> 00:08:23.510 so your veins collapse, so it [244] 00:08:24.010 --> 00:08:24.830 makes it really hard to access [245] 00:08:25.330 --> 00:08:27.110 your veins. So here I am on this [246] 00:08:27.610 --> 00:08:29.630 table, and to me, it just felt [247] 00:08:30.130 --> 00:08:31.750 like I jumped out of an airplane [248] 00:08:32.250 --> 00:08:33.470 without a parachute. I'm just [249] 00:08:33.970 --> 00:08:34.950 like feeling like I'm falling [250] 00:08:35.450 --> 00:08:36.790 through space. And it's probably [251] 00:08:37.290 --> 00:08:38.310 my blood pressure right as this [253] 00:08:41.690 --> 00:08:43.550 nurse on my right yells out, 50 [254] 00:08:44.050 --> 00:08:46.320 over 15. Hurry. And that's my [255] 00:08:46.820 --> 00:08:47.560 blood pressure. And I keep [256] 00:08:48.120 --> 00:08:50.800 feeling like I'm falling. And [257] 00:08:51.300 --> 00:08:52.160 I'm thinking, I'm lying on this [258] 00:08:52.660 --> 00:08:52.960 table thinking, you know, [259] 00:08:53.460 --> 00:08:55.160 what's taking her so long? And [260] 00:08:55.660 --> 00:08:57.840 then I realized at that moment, [261] 00:08:58.340 --> 00:09:00.200 I realized that I was dying. [262] 00:09:00.360 --> 00:09:01.960 And it was very different from [263] 00:09:02.360 --> 00:09:03.920 giving birth because I gave [264] 00:09:04.420 --> 00:09:05.600 birth in the middle of the [265] 00:09:06.100 --> 00:09:07.640 Landers quake, which was a 7.4 [266] 00:09:08.140 --> 00:09:09.400 earthquake and a 7.2 earthquake. [267] 00:09:09.560 --> 00:09:11.560 [268] 00:09:11.720 --> 00:09:14.280 the two, the 7.4 and the 7.2. [269] 00:09:14.440 --> 00:09:15.920 So we lost all the power in the [270] 00:09:16.420 --> 00:09:17.860 hospital. Uh, it was one of [271] 00:09:18.360 --> 00:09:19.140 those moments in my life when I [272] 00:09:19.640 --> 00:09:21.420 thought I was going to die. And [273] 00:09:21.920 --> 00:09:22.340 this was a very different [274] 00:09:22.840 --> 00:09:24.420 experience because I knew that I [275] 00:09:24.920 --> 00:09:25.620 was dying, right? A lot of times [276] 00:09:26.120 --> 00:09:26.860 we're driving on a freeway, [277] 00:09:27.360 --> 00:09:28.180 somebody cuts us off, and we're [278] 00:09:28.680 --> 00:09:29.620 like, this is it. I almost died. [279] 00:09:30.020 --> 00:09:32.340 Right? My life is over. Yeah, [280] 00:09:32.840 --> 00:09:34.260 right. You're all you. You come [281] 00:09:34.340 --> 00:09:37.140 so close. But this was a [282] 00:09:37.640 --> 00:09:38.220 different experience because I, [284] 00:09:40.120 --> 00:09:41.220 was dying. And the complete [285] 00:09:41.720 --> 00:09:42.900 atheist that I was at the time [286] 00:09:43.400 --> 00:09:44.780 did not believe in anything. It [287] 00:09:45.280 --> 00:09:47.320 was very black and white. My dad [288] 00:09:47.820 --> 00:09:48.400 was a physician, very [289] 00:09:48.900 --> 00:09:50.720 scientific. You can't prove it, [290] 00:09:51.200 --> 00:09:52.880 then it doesn't exist, right? [291] 00:09:53.380 --> 00:09:55.960 It doesn't exist. So here I am, [292] 00:09:56.460 --> 00:09:57.480 the atheist on the table in the [293] 00:09:57.980 --> 00:09:59.360 er. So what do I do? I pray to [294] 00:09:59.860 --> 00:10:01.360 God to save my life. I said, [295] 00:10:01.520 --> 00:10:03.080 well, if there is any. If [296] 00:10:03.580 --> 00:10:04.680 there's any truth in what they [297] 00:10:05.180 --> 00:10:06.680 taught me when I was 14, this is [298] 00:10:07.180 --> 00:10:08.840 all I have at this moment. And [300] 00:10:10.860 --> 00:10:12.080 me live. I have three children [301] 00:10:12.580 --> 00:10:13.640 under the age of six. I had a [302] 00:10:14.140 --> 00:10:14.800 six year old boy, a three and a [303] 00:10:15.300 --> 00:10:16.200 half year old boy, and a newborn [304] 00:10:16.700 --> 00:10:18.500 baby girl. And as soon as I said [305] 00:10:19.000 --> 00:10:19.780 that, I got pulled out of my [306] 00:10:20.280 --> 00:10:22.940 body. And, you know, the first [307] 00:10:23.440 --> 00:10:25.060 thought was, how can I be [308] 00:10:25.560 --> 00:10:27.180 outside my body and still be me? [309] 00:10:27.500 --> 00:10:29.660 How does this work? Because my [310] 00:10:29.900 --> 00:10:31.900 I. My whole belief system was, [311] 00:10:32.140 --> 00:10:34.980 you die, it's black, you're [312] 00:10:35.480 --> 00:10:36.700 gone, you don't exist anymore. [313] 00:10:36.780 --> 00:10:38.420 And here I am outside my body. [314] 00:10:38.920 --> 00:10:39.700 [315] 00:10:40.200 --> 00:10:41.020 and I'm floating here in space, [316] 00:10:41.660 --> 00:10:43.980 and I'm still me. I'm still [317] 00:10:44.220 --> 00:10:46.060 thinking. I'm still the same. [318] 00:10:46.460 --> 00:10:48.500 The way I feel right now in my [319] 00:10:49.000 --> 00:10:50.720 body, I'm outside my body, but [320] 00:10:51.220 --> 00:10:52.680 I'm still the same Person, did [321] 00:10:53.180 --> 00:10:54.880 you see yourself? Were you able [322] 00:10:55.380 --> 00:10:56.680 to see yourself? Like, I have no [323] 00:10:57.180 --> 00:10:58.200 memory of seeing myself, just [324] 00:10:58.700 --> 00:10:59.960 knowing my body is below me. [325] 00:11:00.120 --> 00:11:03.240 Okay, but in this state, there [326] 00:11:03.320 --> 00:11:05.039 you have access to time and [327] 00:11:05.539 --> 00:11:06.480 there was no time. It drove me [328] 00:11:06.980 --> 00:11:08.520 crazy for years. There was no [329] 00:11:09.020 --> 00:11:10.040 past, no present, no future. It [331] 00:11:13.000 --> 00:11:14.160 you know, you could access the [332] 00:11:14.660 --> 00:11:15.200 past and the future and the [333] 00:11:15.700 --> 00:11:17.520 present all at the same time. I [334] 00:11:18.020 --> 00:11:18.680 searched the library, the San [335] 00:11:19.180 --> 00:11:20.560 Francisco Public Library, for [336] 00:11:21.060 --> 00:11:21.840 anything that could tell me, [337] 00:11:22.000 --> 00:11:23.520 why is there no time on the [338] 00:11:24.020 --> 00:11:25.960 other side? So anyway, there is [339] 00:11:26.460 --> 00:11:27.800 just. You're completely, you [340] 00:11:28.300 --> 00:11:29.160 know, you're at peace. It's [341] 00:11:29.660 --> 00:11:30.600 just, you know, unconditional [342] 00:11:31.100 --> 00:11:31.920 love and peace. You're not [343] 00:11:32.420 --> 00:11:34.520 worried anymore about, you know, [344] 00:11:35.020 --> 00:11:35.560 oh my, you know, oh my gosh, [345] 00:11:36.060 --> 00:11:36.880 you know, my kids and how are [347] 00:11:38.700 --> 00:11:40.600 mom? It's just gone. You're just [348] 00:11:41.100 --> 00:11:42.000 in this peace state. Wow. I'm [349] 00:11:42.500 --> 00:11:43.760 outside my body. How can I, [350] 00:11:44.260 --> 00:11:46.120 how, how can I be me? Why am I, [351] 00:11:46.620 --> 00:11:48.080 how does this work? Right? So [352] 00:11:48.580 --> 00:11:50.140 it's, you lose all those [353] 00:11:50.220 --> 00:11:53.020 worries. And then luckily they [354] 00:11:53.520 --> 00:11:55.180 saved me. I got pulled back into [355] 00:11:55.680 --> 00:11:56.220 my body. And then the next [356] 00:11:56.720 --> 00:11:57.740 morning as I'm in the hospital [357] 00:11:58.860 --> 00:12:00.580 and I'm thinking, I'm trying to [358] 00:12:01.080 --> 00:12:02.620 come to terms with how could I [359] 00:12:03.120 --> 00:12:03.540 be outside myself? What just [360] 00:12:04.040 --> 00:12:05.420 happened? What just happened? [361] 00:12:05.740 --> 00:12:07.420 [362] 00:12:07.920 --> 00:12:09.580 hallucination? You come close to [363] 00:12:10.080 --> 00:12:11.740 death and then now we know it's [364] 00:12:12.240 --> 00:12:13.140 not a hallucination. They're [365] 00:12:13.640 --> 00:12:14.860 doing a lot of research on this, [366] 00:12:15.660 --> 00:12:18.040 so. But this is 1992, and I [367] 00:12:18.540 --> 00:12:19.480 don't know anything about near [368] 00:12:19.980 --> 00:12:20.880 death experiences. I have no [369] 00:12:21.380 --> 00:12:22.240 spiritual experience. I don't [370] 00:12:22.740 --> 00:12:23.240 believe in angels. I don't [371] 00:12:23.740 --> 00:12:24.360 believe in the afterlife. I [372] 00:12:24.860 --> 00:12:25.200 don't believe in the spirit [373] 00:12:25.700 --> 00:12:27.200 world. It was not part of my [374] 00:12:27.700 --> 00:12:29.000 belief system. And here I am, [375] 00:12:29.500 --> 00:12:31.360 and now I hear my sister in law [376] 00:12:31.860 --> 00:12:33.320 talking to me. And she had just [378] 00:12:34.900 --> 00:12:36.440 earlier from cancer. And she [379] 00:12:36.940 --> 00:12:37.920 says, everything is going to be [380] 00:12:38.420 --> 00:12:40.840 okay. And I'm like, yesterday I [381] 00:12:41.340 --> 00:12:42.760 was outside my body. Now I hear [382] 00:12:43.260 --> 00:12:44.360 my sister in law talking to me. [383] 00:12:44.900 --> 00:12:46.300 I mean, you know, am I going [384] 00:12:46.800 --> 00:12:47.740 crazy? I can't tell anybody [385] 00:12:48.240 --> 00:12:48.700 because they're going to lock me [386] 00:12:49.200 --> 00:12:50.580 up in the psych ward, right? [387] 00:12:51.700 --> 00:12:53.100 And then they sent this very [388] 00:12:53.600 --> 00:12:54.820 nice Norwegian nurse because [389] 00:12:55.320 --> 00:12:56.140 they figured I was going to bond [390] 00:12:56.640 --> 00:13:00.260 with her. Oh, yeah. She goes, [391] 00:13:00.980 --> 00:13:03.140 did anything unusual happen in [392] 00:13:03.640 --> 00:13:05.700 the ER yesterday? And I knew [394] 00:13:07.680 --> 00:13:08.420 was referring to. And she [395] 00:13:08.500 --> 00:13:09.980 probably had knowledge about [396] 00:13:10.480 --> 00:13:11.900 near death experiences. And she, [397] 00:13:12.400 --> 00:13:13.060 she might even have been there. [398] 00:13:13.760 --> 00:13:15.520 And I just said, no, no, [399] 00:13:16.020 --> 00:13:18.080 nothing. Happened. Oh, wow. [400] 00:13:18.160 --> 00:13:20.040 Yeah. I was petrified that if I [401] 00:13:20.540 --> 00:13:20.960 said something, they were going [402] 00:13:21.460 --> 00:13:23.880 to lock me up. So then my mother [403] 00:13:24.380 --> 00:13:25.320 in law came. My parents changed [404] 00:13:25.820 --> 00:13:26.200 their tickets, you know, [405] 00:13:26.700 --> 00:13:27.960 several times back home to [406] 00:13:28.460 --> 00:13:30.120 Sweden. And my mother in law [407] 00:13:30.620 --> 00:13:32.120 came and she said, tell me what [408] 00:13:32.620 --> 00:13:33.320 [409] 00:13:33.820 --> 00:13:34.400 could tell something was not [410] 00:13:34.900 --> 00:13:35.520 right. And I hadn't even told. [411] 00:13:36.020 --> 00:13:37.280 I didn't even tell my parents at [412] 00:13:37.780 --> 00:13:39.240 that point because I knew my dad [413] 00:13:39.740 --> 00:13:41.470 was so scientific and I couldn't [414] 00:13:41.970 --> 00:13:42.870 wrap my head around it. And I [415] 00:13:43.370 --> 00:13:44.590 was also really sick because I [416] 00:13:45.090 --> 00:13:46.830 had lost so much blood and they [417] 00:13:47.330 --> 00:13:47.910 were going to give me blood in [418] 00:13:48.410 --> 00:13:48.950 the hospital. That was the first [419] 00:13:49.450 --> 00:13:50.150 thing they said. And I pleaded [420] 00:13:50.650 --> 00:13:51.950 with the doctor and I said, do [421] 00:13:52.450 --> 00:13:53.110 you have to give me blood? I [422] 00:13:53.610 --> 00:13:54.110 have three children under the [423] 00:13:54.610 --> 00:13:56.470 age of six. And it was in 1992 [425] 00:13:59.130 --> 00:14:00.070 been given blood transfusions [426] 00:14:00.230 --> 00:14:01.670 then found out they had aids. [427] 00:14:01.750 --> 00:14:04.270 Aids, yes. So it was during that [428] 00:14:04.770 --> 00:14:06.990 time. And so we decided not to [429] 00:14:07.490 --> 00:14:08.110 do blood. And he said, you know, [430] 00:14:08.610 --> 00:14:09.870 you're a very healthy 34 year [431] 00:14:10.370 --> 00:14:11.710 old. I had just gotten my [432] 00:14:12.210 --> 00:14:13.890 diploma in nutrition. I mean, [433] 00:14:13.970 --> 00:14:15.450 we had the healthiest diet. I [434] 00:14:15.950 --> 00:14:17.210 was super healthy going into [435] 00:14:17.710 --> 00:14:19.170 this ordeal. So they said, you [436] 00:14:19.670 --> 00:14:19.930 know, you're not going to feel [437] 00:14:20.430 --> 00:14:21.330 too good for a few months, but [438] 00:14:22.050 --> 00:14:23.290 we're going to send you home [439] 00:14:23.790 --> 00:14:24.570 with all these supplements and [441] 00:14:26.350 --> 00:14:28.050 gave me? I have no idea. And [442] 00:14:28.290 --> 00:14:30.850 anyway, so then my mother in law [443] 00:14:31.350 --> 00:14:32.090 came and she said, what happened [444] 00:14:32.590 --> 00:14:33.450 to you is called the near death [445] 00:14:33.950 --> 00:14:35.730 experience. And she went out and [446] 00:14:36.230 --> 00:14:37.610 she bought the book Life After [447] 00:14:38.110 --> 00:14:40.240 Life by Raymond Moody. So. And [448] 00:14:40.740 --> 00:14:43.160 that's how it all began. Wow. [449] 00:14:44.360 --> 00:14:45.760 And then I had this bone marrow [450] 00:14:46.260 --> 00:14:47.160 suppression and I had a lot of [451] 00:14:47.960 --> 00:14:49.680 electrical interference, which [452] 00:14:50.180 --> 00:14:50.920 are all funny stories, but I'll [453] 00:14:51.420 --> 00:14:52.520 tell you the second NDE first [454] 00:14:52.680 --> 00:14:54.200 and then we can go into talking [455] 00:14:54.700 --> 00:14:56.040 [456] 00:14:56.540 --> 00:14:58.920 came from all of this. But I was [457] 00:14:59.000 --> 00:15:00.240 struggling with a bone marrow [458] 00:15:00.740 --> 00:15:01.800 suppression and I had bruises. [459] 00:15:01.880 --> 00:15:03.160 I was getting pneumonia every [460] 00:15:03.660 --> 00:15:05.400 six months. And yeah, I was a [461] 00:15:05.900 --> 00:15:06.520 mess. And it took a good six [462] 00:15:07.020 --> 00:15:09.090 years to come out of that. And [463] 00:15:09.890 --> 00:15:11.170 so I couldn't really function [464] 00:15:11.670 --> 00:15:12.690 normally for, for like six [465] 00:15:13.190 --> 00:15:14.530 years. And during this [466] 00:15:14.610 --> 00:15:16.890 struggling of, of healing, I had [467] 00:15:17.390 --> 00:15:17.970 a second near death experience. [468] 00:15:18.370 --> 00:15:20.370 And I laugh at that now because [469] 00:15:20.930 --> 00:15:22.650 I feel like I needed. It was two [470] 00:15:23.150 --> 00:15:24.570 years later and I feel like I [472] 00:15:27.330 --> 00:15:28.570 to start understanding what [473] 00:15:29.070 --> 00:15:30.050 happened during the first near [474] 00:15:30.550 --> 00:15:31.170 death experience. And I had a [475] 00:15:31.670 --> 00:15:32.610 lot of spiritual experiences [476] 00:15:33.110 --> 00:15:34.450 during these two years as well. [477] 00:15:34.690 --> 00:15:35.810 And it started, you know, I [478] 00:15:36.310 --> 00:15:37.250 would hear the spirit world and [479] 00:15:37.750 --> 00:15:38.970 things Were happening. And then [480] 00:15:39.470 --> 00:15:40.670 I have experience. It's almost [481] 00:15:41.170 --> 00:15:42.670 like it was divided up. Sure. [482] 00:15:43.170 --> 00:15:43.990 If I had had the first. The [483] 00:15:44.490 --> 00:15:45.470 second experience first, I don't [484] 00:15:45.970 --> 00:15:46.350 know, I might have checked [485] 00:15:46.850 --> 00:15:48.430 myself into a psych ward. So [486] 00:15:50.510 --> 00:15:52.430 it's a lot to take on. Right. [488] 00:15:54.270 --> 00:15:55.629 again, I get pulled out of my [489] 00:15:56.129 --> 00:15:56.950 body. Same thing. Instant. It's [490] 00:15:57.450 --> 00:15:58.870 instantaneous. One second you're [491] 00:15:59.370 --> 00:16:00.150 there, and the next second, you [492] 00:16:00.650 --> 00:16:01.510 are not. You're outside. It's [493] 00:16:02.010 --> 00:16:03.710 this instantaneous transfer of [494] 00:16:04.210 --> 00:16:06.750 your soul. And I get. I have [495] 00:16:07.250 --> 00:16:08.470 this feeling of tumbling through [496] 00:16:08.970 --> 00:16:09.910 darkness. And I get to this [497] 00:16:10.410 --> 00:16:11.540 place that I call the midst [498] 00:16:11.690 --> 00:16:13.810 station because there was an [499] 00:16:14.310 --> 00:16:14.970 awareness that you could go [500] 00:16:15.470 --> 00:16:16.770 higher or lower, as if you go [501] 00:16:17.270 --> 00:16:18.250 into a skyscraper. Really? [502] 00:16:18.410 --> 00:16:20.210 [503] 00:16:20.710 --> 00:16:21.090 hundred floors in the [504] 00:16:21.590 --> 00:16:23.410 skyscraper, and you get off on [505] 00:16:23.910 --> 00:16:26.330 the 50th floor. When you're on [506] 00:16:26.830 --> 00:16:27.690 that 50th floor in the [507] 00:16:28.190 --> 00:16:29.730 skyscraper, you know there's [508] 00:16:30.230 --> 00:16:31.010 floors above you. You know [509] 00:16:31.510 --> 00:16:32.770 there's floors below you. You [510] 00:16:33.270 --> 00:16:33.770 don't know what's on those [511] 00:16:34.270 --> 00:16:35.090 floors because you're on the [512] 00:16:35.590 --> 00:16:36.450 50th floor. You've never been to [513] 00:16:36.950 --> 00:16:38.850 the other doors. But it was that [514] 00:16:39.350 --> 00:16:40.890 kind of a feeling, as if I call [515] 00:16:41.390 --> 00:16:42.330 it. I ended up at the bouncing [516] 00:16:42.830 --> 00:16:44.210 station because they sent me [517] 00:16:44.710 --> 00:16:46.330 back. You know how some people [519] 00:16:48.030 --> 00:16:49.050 I had a choice. I could stay if [520] 00:16:49.550 --> 00:16:51.010 I. Right, right. Yeah. No, no, [521] 00:16:51.510 --> 00:16:52.490 no. There was no choice. It was. [522] 00:16:52.990 --> 00:16:54.290 You're going. Get out. You gotta [523] 00:16:54.790 --> 00:16:56.530 go. You're not. We're gonna [524] 00:16:57.030 --> 00:17:00.290 talk. But this very. [525] 00:17:00.610 --> 00:17:01.970 Yeah, it's really interesting [526] 00:17:02.470 --> 00:17:04.020 because. And I know that that is [527] 00:17:04.520 --> 00:17:07.020 in my astrological chart that I [528] 00:17:07.520 --> 00:17:09.020 cannot leave. I've been told by [529] 00:17:09.520 --> 00:17:10.900 an astrologer that I cannot [530] 00:17:11.400 --> 00:17:13.340 leave until my work is done. So [531] 00:17:14.140 --> 00:17:15.580 that's just my incarnation. [532] 00:17:16.080 --> 00:17:17.300 It's very interesting. So [533] 00:17:17.800 --> 00:17:18.819 anyway, so here I am at the [535] 00:17:21.760 --> 00:17:24.100 most beautiful music. You cannot [536] 00:17:24.600 --> 00:17:25.500 make this music on earth. And I [537] 00:17:26.000 --> 00:17:26.580 know other people that have [538] 00:17:27.080 --> 00:17:29.100 heard music and have tried to [539] 00:17:29.600 --> 00:17:31.160 recreate it. Yes, it's [540] 00:17:31.660 --> 00:17:33.440 beautiful, but again, it's not [541] 00:17:33.600 --> 00:17:35.800 that quality. It's more [542] 00:17:36.300 --> 00:17:37.080 beautiful than the music we can [543] 00:17:37.580 --> 00:17:38.920 make on the earth plane. And I'm [544] 00:17:39.420 --> 00:17:39.960 gonna say there is also [545] 00:17:40.460 --> 00:17:43.000 something hauntingly familiar [546] 00:17:43.500 --> 00:17:44.760 about it. It's a very simple [547] 00:17:45.260 --> 00:17:46.720 melody, Almost as if we already [548] 00:17:46.800 --> 00:17:49.840 know the music. So I sat at our [549] 00:17:50.340 --> 00:17:52.160 [550] 00:17:52.660 --> 00:17:53.440 recreate it. There was not one [551] 00:17:53.940 --> 00:17:54.440 sound. And I think there was [552] 00:17:54.940 --> 00:17:55.920 over 200 sounds on that [553] 00:17:56.280 --> 00:17:57.960 synthesizer. That was not one [554] 00:17:58.460 --> 00:18:00.760 sound that even came close. So [555] 00:18:01.400 --> 00:18:03.200 as I'm looking around, I'm like, [556] 00:18:03.700 --> 00:18:04.520 where is this beautiful music? [557] 00:18:05.020 --> 00:18:06.520 Coming from. I look to the right [558] 00:18:07.020 --> 00:18:08.520 and I see a little log cabin. [559] 00:18:09.160 --> 00:18:10.560 And I open the door, I look [560] 00:18:11.060 --> 00:18:12.560 inside, but it's empty. So then [561] 00:18:13.060 --> 00:18:14.320 I look to my left and I see [562] 00:18:14.820 --> 00:18:16.320 another log cabin. And I open [563] 00:18:16.820 --> 00:18:17.560 the door, I look inside, but [564] 00:18:18.060 --> 00:18:20.640 it's empty. But then it's. If [566] 00:18:22.500 --> 00:18:24.640 dense fog, right? The fog rolls [567] 00:18:25.140 --> 00:18:26.760 in and you totally. You get [568] 00:18:27.260 --> 00:18:28.740 completely surround in this fog, [569] 00:18:29.240 --> 00:18:30.380 right? You're in this fog and [570] 00:18:30.880 --> 00:18:31.460 the sound changes and [571] 00:18:31.960 --> 00:18:33.260 everything, but it was light. [572] 00:18:33.760 --> 00:18:35.300 It was the brightest, widest [573] 00:18:35.860 --> 00:18:37.620 healing light you can imagine. [574] 00:18:38.120 --> 00:18:39.340 And it kind of came in and [575] 00:18:39.840 --> 00:18:41.940 enveloped me. And as I'm turning [576] 00:18:42.440 --> 00:18:44.139 around to. As I'm wondering [577] 00:18:44.639 --> 00:18:45.540 where this music is coming from, [578] 00:18:46.020 --> 00:18:48.140 I see an outline of angels. [579] 00:18:48.640 --> 00:18:50.020 It's like a silhouette of angels [580] 00:18:50.520 --> 00:18:51.820 in the light. And the music is [582] 00:18:54.560 --> 00:18:56.350 multiple angels. And you saw [583] 00:18:56.510 --> 00:18:58.390 individual silhouettes. Angelic [584] 00:18:58.890 --> 00:19:00.990 choir. Okay. Wow. I don't [585] 00:19:01.490 --> 00:19:04.590 believe in angels. Okay? So here [586] 00:19:05.090 --> 00:19:06.830 I am again. I'm having [587] 00:19:07.330 --> 00:19:09.150 experiences and seeing things [588] 00:19:09.650 --> 00:19:10.710 and hearing things in things [589] 00:19:11.210 --> 00:19:12.990 that I did not believe, right? [590] 00:19:13.150 --> 00:19:14.990 It would be different if I said, [591] 00:19:15.490 --> 00:19:16.310 of course there are angels. Of [592] 00:19:16.810 --> 00:19:17.590 course there's afterlives. Of [593] 00:19:18.090 --> 00:19:19.430 course there is a God or Source [594] 00:19:19.930 --> 00:19:21.550 or spirit guides, right? I had [595] 00:19:22.050 --> 00:19:24.490 no belief system that this would [596] 00:19:24.990 --> 00:19:26.610 [597] 00:19:27.110 --> 00:19:27.970 fact that I don't believe in [598] 00:19:28.470 --> 00:19:29.370 angels. But here I'm hearing [599] 00:19:29.870 --> 00:19:30.890 music coming from this angelic [600] 00:19:31.390 --> 00:19:33.330 choir, right? So I'm going to [601] 00:19:33.830 --> 00:19:34.450 say this is because I was so [602] 00:19:34.950 --> 00:19:35.850 scientific. I had to have [603] 00:19:35.930 --> 00:19:38.890 experiences where I was being [604] 00:19:39.390 --> 00:19:40.209 shown things that I didn't [605] 00:19:40.709 --> 00:19:42.050 believe in. If I had met Grandma [606] 00:19:42.550 --> 00:19:43.930 and Grandpa, I would just have [607] 00:19:44.430 --> 00:19:45.490 completely discounted the whole [608] 00:19:45.990 --> 00:19:46.850 experience. And I would have [609] 00:19:47.350 --> 00:19:48.290 said, of course I'm going to see [610] 00:19:48.790 --> 00:19:49.250 Grandma and Grandpa. I love [611] 00:19:49.750 --> 00:19:50.550 Grandma and Grandpa. Of course [613] 00:19:52.910 --> 00:19:55.150 So. Right. So again, I'm having [614] 00:19:55.650 --> 00:19:57.750 experiences that I didn't [615] 00:19:58.250 --> 00:20:00.510 believe would be possible. So as [616] 00:20:00.670 --> 00:20:02.910 that, right? So this light, [617] 00:20:03.150 --> 00:20:05.110 though, I'm going to say it [618] 00:20:05.610 --> 00:20:05.750 doesn't matter what your [619] 00:20:06.250 --> 00:20:07.110 religion is. I don't like to [620] 00:20:07.610 --> 00:20:08.990 call it God because it sort of [621] 00:20:09.490 --> 00:20:11.590 pins me down in specific [622] 00:20:12.090 --> 00:20:13.750 religions, right? So I call it [623] 00:20:14.250 --> 00:20:15.430 Source. You know, we all come [624] 00:20:15.930 --> 00:20:16.950 from Source. We are part of [625] 00:20:17.450 --> 00:20:19.470 Source. Source is just pure, [626] 00:20:19.970 --> 00:20:21.510 unconditional love and [627] 00:20:22.010 --> 00:20:23.490 consciousness. We carry that [629] 00:20:25.550 --> 00:20:26.530 of that consciousness. We're [630] 00:20:27.030 --> 00:20:28.890 part of that source. And then [631] 00:20:29.290 --> 00:20:31.610 when you know that that [632] 00:20:32.110 --> 00:20:33.410 unconditional love that you get [633] 00:20:33.910 --> 00:20:35.210 from this light, right, that we [634] 00:20:35.710 --> 00:20:37.370 have, that we were born that way [635] 00:20:37.870 --> 00:20:39.130 and then we were conditioned as [636] 00:20:39.630 --> 00:20:40.650 we grew up and we became [637] 00:20:41.150 --> 00:20:42.450 different people. But we came to [638] 00:20:42.950 --> 00:20:44.130 Earth like that, with this [639] 00:20:44.630 --> 00:20:46.490 light, with this unconditional [640] 00:20:46.990 --> 00:20:49.190 love. And we, you know, when we [641] 00:20:49.690 --> 00:20:51.230 leave this plane, we go back to [642] 00:20:51.730 --> 00:20:52.870 that, to that unconditional [643] 00:20:53.370 --> 00:20:55.790 [644] 00:20:56.290 --> 00:20:56.710 you know, looking into the [645] 00:20:57.210 --> 00:20:58.510 lights, listening to the angels [646] 00:20:59.010 --> 00:21:00.870 choir, I become aware of two [647] 00:21:01.370 --> 00:21:02.270 spirit guides. And the one on my [648] 00:21:02.770 --> 00:21:03.910 right says to the one kind of [649] 00:21:04.410 --> 00:21:05.950 left in front of me, what is she [650] 00:21:06.450 --> 00:21:07.350 doing here? She has to go back. [651] 00:21:07.830 --> 00:21:10.990 And I say, no, no, no, wait a [652] 00:21:11.490 --> 00:21:13.910 second. How can my body and [653] 00:21:14.410 --> 00:21:15.550 still be me? How does this work? [654] 00:21:16.050 --> 00:21:16.670 It's been two years of me [655] 00:21:17.170 --> 00:21:19.070 pondering this, right? And the [656] 00:21:19.570 --> 00:21:20.190 spirit guide on my left says, [657] 00:21:20.690 --> 00:21:21.470 well, if I told you, you [658] 00:21:21.970 --> 00:21:22.870 wouldn't remember. Okay. And [660] 00:21:24.690 --> 00:21:26.230 about like a wiping mechanism or [661] 00:21:26.730 --> 00:21:28.190 they have control, right? And I [662] 00:21:28.690 --> 00:21:29.590 also say that men in black, [663] 00:21:29.830 --> 00:21:31.870 that neural eyes are feeling [664] 00:21:32.370 --> 00:21:33.550 wiped out after a normal day in [665] 00:21:34.050 --> 00:21:35.110 public. Always called too [666] 00:21:35.610 --> 00:21:37.510 sensitive. Take a breath. The [667] 00:21:38.010 --> 00:21:40.430 sensitivity isn't a flaw. It [668] 00:21:40.930 --> 00:21:41.790 might just be intuition you were [669] 00:21:42.290 --> 00:21:43.390 never taught to manage. At the [670] 00:21:43.890 --> 00:21:45.110 listening field retreat, August [671] 00:21:45.610 --> 00:21:47.350 21st to the 23rd at Eaglewood [672] 00:21:47.850 --> 00:21:49.390 Resort and Spa in Itasca, Gail [673] 00:21:49.890 --> 00:21:50.670 Alexander shows you how to [674] 00:21:51.170 --> 00:21:52.350 protect your energy. And Kerry [676] 00:21:54.170 --> 00:21:55.110 nervous system finally settle [677] 00:21:55.610 --> 00:21:57.230 into safety. Space is limited. [678] 00:21:57.470 --> 00:21:58.950 Click the link below or visit [679] 00:21:59.450 --> 00:22:00.430 thechillcrew.org [680] 00:22:00.750 --> 00:22:02.750 thelisteningretreat. No, you're [681] 00:22:03.250 --> 00:22:03.630 not going to get to remember [682] 00:22:04.130 --> 00:22:04.790 that. We're not going to tell [683] 00:22:05.290 --> 00:22:06.310 you, basically, but you will [684] 00:22:06.810 --> 00:22:08.430 remember this. And then it was [685] 00:22:08.930 --> 00:22:09.950 as if I was standing on the moon [686] 00:22:10.450 --> 00:22:12.100 looking down on the earth, but [687] 00:22:12.600 --> 00:22:13.660 around the earth there was a [688] 00:22:14.160 --> 00:22:15.180 silvery, what I called at the [689] 00:22:15.680 --> 00:22:17.340 time, because this is 1994, a [690] 00:22:17.840 --> 00:22:20.260 [691] 00:22:20.760 --> 00:22:22.380 growing up in Sweden, in [692] 00:22:22.880 --> 00:22:23.900 Stockholm, outside Stockholm, [693] 00:22:24.400 --> 00:22:25.620 there is an archipelago of about [694] 00:22:26.120 --> 00:22:28.900 24,000 islands. And I spent my [695] 00:22:29.400 --> 00:22:31.180 summers on one of these islands. [696] 00:22:32.460 --> 00:22:34.700 And there was no electricity, [697] 00:22:35.200 --> 00:22:37.590 no running water, no phone. So [698] 00:22:38.090 --> 00:22:39.630 very, very primitive. And I [699] 00:22:40.130 --> 00:22:41.270 would row this little boat for [700] 00:22:41.770 --> 00:22:43.150 my grandmother as a 6, 7 year [701] 00:22:43.650 --> 00:22:44.670 old with my big orange life vest [702] 00:22:45.150 --> 00:22:47.030 in the ocean and she would lay [703] 00:22:47.530 --> 00:22:48.630 these fish nets to catch fish [704] 00:22:49.130 --> 00:22:50.630 for the family to eat. But when [705] 00:22:51.130 --> 00:22:52.310 you lift out these fishnets in [707] 00:22:54.090 --> 00:22:54.950 these little water droplets on [708] 00:22:55.450 --> 00:22:56.390 the fishnet and they sort of [709] 00:22:56.890 --> 00:22:58.230 sparkle in the sunlight. But a [710] 00:22:58.730 --> 00:23:00.310 fishnet has those diamond. It's [711] 00:23:00.810 --> 00:23:04.150 diamond shaped, right? So I see [712] 00:23:04.650 --> 00:23:05.870 this image and it looks like, [713] 00:23:06.630 --> 00:23:08.030 literally like the silvery [714] 00:23:08.530 --> 00:23:09.230 glitter fishnet around the [715] 00:23:09.730 --> 00:23:11.470 earth. Now with Google. Okay, [716] 00:23:11.970 --> 00:23:12.710 we didn't have Google back then. [717] 00:23:12.950 --> 00:23:14.590 I searched the San Francisco [718] 00:23:15.090 --> 00:23:16.030 Public Library again from floor [719] 00:23:16.530 --> 00:23:18.950 to ceiling. What is this fishnet [720] 00:23:19.450 --> 00:23:20.510 around the Earth? What is. You [721] 00:23:21.010 --> 00:23:21.590 know, But I couldn't find [723] 00:23:24.090 --> 00:23:24.790 wasn't searching in the right [724] 00:23:24.870 --> 00:23:26.870 departments of the library or. [725] 00:23:27.110 --> 00:23:28.350 And I didn't want to ask for [726] 00:23:28.850 --> 00:23:29.310 help because I thought they were [727] 00:23:29.810 --> 00:23:31.470 going to think I was crazy. So I [728] 00:23:31.970 --> 00:23:32.790 was just kind of randomly [729] 00:23:33.290 --> 00:23:34.950 searching the library, right, [730] 00:23:35.450 --> 00:23:36.230 to find something that could [731] 00:23:36.730 --> 00:23:38.790 explain why is there no time and [732] 00:23:39.290 --> 00:23:40.350 what is this fishnet around the [733] 00:23:40.850 --> 00:23:42.910 Earth? Well, so now you can just [734] 00:23:43.410 --> 00:23:44.710 Google grid around the Earth and [735] 00:23:45.210 --> 00:23:45.790 you're going to see images that [736] 00:23:46.290 --> 00:23:48.310 look very similar to what I saw. [737] 00:23:49.110 --> 00:23:50.870 [738] 00:23:51.670 --> 00:23:54.190 everything on Earth is connected [739] 00:23:54.690 --> 00:23:56.550 to each other and everything on [740] 00:23:57.050 --> 00:23:58.390 Earth is connected up to this [741] 00:23:58.890 --> 00:24:01.800 grid. And that is literally what [742] 00:24:02.300 --> 00:24:03.520 has become my work today with [743] 00:24:04.020 --> 00:24:06.880 ancestral healing. Wow. Because [744] 00:24:07.380 --> 00:24:10.160 we are all interconnected. So [745] 00:24:10.660 --> 00:24:12.520 you talked about a few different [746] 00:24:13.020 --> 00:24:14.640 things that are of interest to [747] 00:24:15.140 --> 00:24:17.200 me. And from time to time we'll [748] 00:24:17.700 --> 00:24:21.760 have guests on that are [749] 00:24:21.840 --> 00:24:23.920 well versed in the God particle [750] 00:24:24.420 --> 00:24:25.080 and different things like that, [751] 00:24:25.580 --> 00:24:26.680 interconnectedness or unity, [752] 00:24:27.180 --> 00:24:28.760 consciousness, all of those [754] 00:24:33.640 --> 00:24:34.920 Something that I wanted to go [755] 00:24:35.420 --> 00:24:39.800 back to that I found eye opening [756] 00:24:40.440 --> 00:24:43.960 was you can't leave until [757] 00:24:44.460 --> 00:24:47.880 your work is done. So a [758] 00:24:48.380 --> 00:24:52.920 side note to that comment was my [759] 00:24:53.420 --> 00:24:55.560 mother, who died in 1994, [760] 00:24:57.670 --> 00:25:00.230 knew that she was going to die. [761] 00:25:01.190 --> 00:25:03.350 And in a conversation with my [762] 00:25:03.910 --> 00:25:05.910 aunt, her sister and her mother, [763] 00:25:06.410 --> 00:25:09.430 my grandmother, she waited till [764] 00:25:09.930 --> 00:25:10.430 my grandmother was off the [765] 00:25:10.930 --> 00:25:11.549 phone. They did that three way [766] 00:25:12.049 --> 00:25:13.990 calling thing. And she says, [767] 00:25:15.430 --> 00:25:17.430 shell, I'm going to die soon. [768] 00:25:18.230 --> 00:25:21.030 And my aunt Shel was like, [770] 00:25:23.570 --> 00:25:24.100 that? How are you going to die? [771] 00:25:24.970 --> 00:25:26.970 And she said, I don't know how, [772] 00:25:27.470 --> 00:25:28.650 but I know I'm going to die soon [773] 00:25:29.370 --> 00:25:33.970 because I dreamt it. And my [774] 00:25:34.470 --> 00:25:36.050 aunt Shell said, we'll just go [775] 00:25:36.550 --> 00:25:37.410 back to sleep and dream another [776] 00:25:37.910 --> 00:25:39.450 dream. And she said, my mom [777] 00:25:39.930 --> 00:25:41.690 said, it doesn't work like that. [778] 00:25:43.530 --> 00:25:47.290 I have completed my list. [779] 00:25:47.450 --> 00:25:50.050 And my aunt said, go back and [780] 00:25:50.550 --> 00:25:51.970 dream another list. And that's [781] 00:25:52.470 --> 00:25:53.730 what it was. Go back and dream [782] 00:25:54.230 --> 00:25:56.200 another list. And my mom said, [783] 00:25:56.700 --> 00:25:57.440 it doesn't work that way. It's [784] 00:25:57.940 --> 00:26:00.560 [785] 00:26:01.440 --> 00:26:03.960 That reminded me of essentially [786] 00:26:04.460 --> 00:26:05.840 what my mom was saying, that her [787] 00:26:06.340 --> 00:26:08.040 work was done and it was time to [788] 00:26:08.540 --> 00:26:12.200 leave. And my aunt told me that [789] 00:26:12.700 --> 00:26:14.120 after, you know, a couple of [790] 00:26:14.620 --> 00:26:15.360 weeks after my mom's passing. [791] 00:26:16.400 --> 00:26:18.840 And I always thought that that [792] 00:26:19.340 --> 00:26:20.240 was interesting. The other [793] 00:26:20.740 --> 00:26:23.500 interesting part was that all of [794] 00:26:24.000 --> 00:26:26.220 my dealings, [795] 00:26:26.940 --> 00:26:28.980 experiences all started with [796] 00:26:29.480 --> 00:26:32.260 prophetic dreams and the fact [797] 00:26:32.760 --> 00:26:35.900 that my mom had that and I wrote [798] 00:26:36.400 --> 00:26:37.340 about it actually in my book [799] 00:26:39.260 --> 00:26:42.700 that I had those things [801] 00:26:45.320 --> 00:26:48.310 there, you know, [802] 00:26:48.870 --> 00:26:50.510 metaphysically with my mom and [803] 00:26:51.010 --> 00:26:53.990 I. Out of curiosity, is there [804] 00:26:54.490 --> 00:26:56.270 anyone else in your family that [805] 00:26:56.770 --> 00:26:57.950 you know that has the gifts that [806] 00:26:58.450 --> 00:27:01.230 you do? Probably my maternal [807] 00:27:01.730 --> 00:27:04.150 grandmother. Because there was [808] 00:27:04.650 --> 00:27:08.110 lots of things that happened in [809] 00:27:08.610 --> 00:27:09.910 between. When I was one year out [810] 00:27:10.410 --> 00:27:11.070 in between the two near death [811] 00:27:11.570 --> 00:27:13.230 experiences. You know, as soon [812] 00:27:13.730 --> 00:27:14.470 as I had my first near death [813] 00:27:14.970 --> 00:27:15.830 experience, it started, right. [814] 00:27:16.330 --> 00:27:18.910 I heard my sister in law, but I [815] 00:27:19.410 --> 00:27:20.790 know now that I'm a born medium, [817] 00:27:22.550 --> 00:27:24.390 I saw spirits when I was little. [818] 00:27:24.870 --> 00:27:27.590 And so when my. [819] 00:27:27.990 --> 00:27:29.150 So it was in between the two [820] 00:27:29.650 --> 00:27:30.430 near death experiences and I [821] 00:27:30.930 --> 00:27:32.310 woke up, my uncle had been sick [822] 00:27:32.790 --> 00:27:34.229 with lung cancer for many years. [823] 00:27:34.729 --> 00:27:37.430 I had no idea where he was at or [824] 00:27:37.930 --> 00:27:38.670 that he was, you know, going to [825] 00:27:39.170 --> 00:27:40.150 die soon or anything like that. [826] 00:27:40.470 --> 00:27:41.470 You know, he could live another [827] 00:27:41.970 --> 00:27:43.350 year or two, who knows? Sure. [828] 00:27:43.750 --> 00:27:45.750 So it was one night and I woke [829] 00:27:46.250 --> 00:27:48.950 up and I was like, wow, my uncle [830] 00:27:49.450 --> 00:27:50.590 is here. He's in again corner, [831] 00:27:51.090 --> 00:27:52.430 [832] 00:27:52.930 --> 00:27:54.350 but in the corner along the [833] 00:27:54.850 --> 00:27:57.350 ceiling. And he came to tell me [834] 00:27:57.850 --> 00:27:59.350 that he had passed on and he [835] 00:27:59.850 --> 00:28:00.990 had, you know, left the earth [836] 00:28:01.490 --> 00:28:02.110 plane and gone to the spirit [837] 00:28:02.610 --> 00:28:05.150 world. And obviously I expected [838] 00:28:05.230 --> 00:28:07.110 my mom to call me the next day [839] 00:28:07.610 --> 00:28:08.110 because it was her brother. [840] 00:28:08.270 --> 00:28:10.880 Right, right. And she didn't [841] 00:28:11.380 --> 00:28:12.120 call. And I said, wow, that's so [842] 00:28:12.620 --> 00:28:13.920 weird. You know, my uncle was [843] 00:28:14.420 --> 00:28:15.400 here last night and he told me [844] 00:28:15.900 --> 00:28:17.800 he had passed. And another day [845] 00:28:18.300 --> 00:28:19.480 went by and my mom still didn't [846] 00:28:19.980 --> 00:28:21.400 call. I said, wow, that's so [848] 00:28:23.460 --> 00:28:25.600 yet. That is, that is a little [849] 00:28:25.680 --> 00:28:27.440 bit. Yeah. She was probably just [850] 00:28:27.940 --> 00:28:29.040 grieving, you know, and like [851] 00:28:29.760 --> 00:28:31.160 arranging for funerals and who [852] 00:28:31.660 --> 00:28:33.400 knows. So then finally the third [853] 00:28:33.900 --> 00:28:36.040 day, my mom calls and she does a [854] 00:28:36.540 --> 00:28:37.360 little, you know, to chit chat, [855] 00:28:37.860 --> 00:28:38.800 you know, how are you feeling? [856] 00:28:39.300 --> 00:28:40.480 How are the kids? Da, da, da, [857] 00:28:40.980 --> 00:28:43.660 Right? Oh yeah, right. [858] 00:28:44.060 --> 00:28:46.620 And then she says, well, I have [859] 00:28:47.120 --> 00:28:48.860 some sad news to share. And I [860] 00:28:49.360 --> 00:28:50.100 interrupted her and I said, [861] 00:28:50.600 --> 00:28:51.740 yeah, I know your brother died. [862] 00:28:52.220 --> 00:28:54.020 And he was just dead silence on [864] 00:28:55.420 --> 00:28:57.900 Yeah. And she says, how do you [865] 00:28:58.400 --> 00:28:59.340 know? And I said, he, he died [866] 00:28:59.840 --> 00:29:01.100 like you know, two days ago or [867] 00:29:01.600 --> 00:29:02.220 this is now, this is the third [868] 00:29:02.720 --> 00:29:03.740 day. And she goes, how do you [869] 00:29:04.240 --> 00:29:04.900 know? I said, he was here, he [870] 00:29:05.400 --> 00:29:06.980 came to say goodbye. And she. [871] 00:29:07.480 --> 00:29:08.940 And her response to that was, [872] 00:29:09.810 --> 00:29:11.370 wow, you're just like your [873] 00:29:11.870 --> 00:29:13.690 grandmother, her mom. Oh, wow. [874] 00:29:14.190 --> 00:29:16.530 Okay, so. And I have memories [875] 00:29:17.030 --> 00:29:17.970 right, from when I was little. [876] 00:29:18.290 --> 00:29:20.570 That was once, you know, we were [877] 00:29:21.070 --> 00:29:21.690 on the island with no [878] 00:29:22.190 --> 00:29:23.090 [879] 00:29:23.250 --> 00:29:25.009 nothing. So in order for us to [880] 00:29:25.509 --> 00:29:26.730 Make a phone call. We had to get [881] 00:29:27.230 --> 00:29:28.370 in the little rowboat with a [882] 00:29:28.870 --> 00:29:29.930 little outboarder motor. And [883] 00:29:30.430 --> 00:29:31.890 then we had to go, you know, [884] 00:29:32.050 --> 00:29:33.770 between the islands for about 10 [885] 00:29:34.270 --> 00:29:35.210 minutes until we got to a bigger [886] 00:29:35.710 --> 00:29:37.210 island that had had a payphone [887] 00:29:37.710 --> 00:29:38.940 on it. Okay. That's how we made [888] 00:29:39.440 --> 00:29:42.780 phone calls. I get down to my [889] 00:29:43.280 --> 00:29:44.220 grandmother's house and she [890] 00:29:44.720 --> 00:29:46.140 says, we have to go. We have to [891] 00:29:46.640 --> 00:29:47.820 go make a phone call. You know, [892] 00:29:48.320 --> 00:29:50.820 my friend passed away at 2am and [893] 00:29:51.320 --> 00:29:51.900 I was like, how do you know? [895] 00:29:53.919 --> 00:29:55.580 it hit my window and it told me, [896] 00:29:56.300 --> 00:29:58.700 you know, she had passed. And so [897] 00:29:59.200 --> 00:30:00.460 I said, okay. So me and my [898] 00:30:00.960 --> 00:30:02.180 brother took grandma to the [899] 00:30:02.680 --> 00:30:03.540 other island to make the phone [900] 00:30:04.040 --> 00:30:05.970 call. And sure enough, that was [901] 00:30:06.470 --> 00:30:07.610 the news that that person had [902] 00:30:08.110 --> 00:30:09.170 passed away at 2am when the bird [903] 00:30:09.670 --> 00:30:12.250 came. Wow. So, you know, you [904] 00:30:12.750 --> 00:30:13.010 have all these crazy [905] 00:30:13.510 --> 00:30:14.530 experiences, and I hadn't. I [906] 00:30:15.030 --> 00:30:15.570 mean, I've had many crazy [907] 00:30:16.070 --> 00:30:17.810 experiences. The future. I mean, [908] 00:30:17.890 --> 00:30:19.250 there are times when I feel [909] 00:30:19.750 --> 00:30:23.050 like, are we just avatars? The [911] 00:30:25.510 --> 00:30:26.610 and this is my little avatar [912] 00:30:26.850 --> 00:30:28.690 when I'm here on Earth. Because [913] 00:30:29.090 --> 00:30:31.210 the soul survives death, right? [914] 00:30:31.710 --> 00:30:32.410 We go on to the spirit world and [915] 00:30:32.910 --> 00:30:33.570 we're still there. Right? [916] 00:30:34.070 --> 00:30:34.730 Because I'm a. I'm a medium, [917] 00:30:35.230 --> 00:30:36.130 and I work as a medium as well. [918] 00:30:38.110 --> 00:30:39.750 You know that when you bring in [919] 00:30:40.250 --> 00:30:41.150 a spirit from the spirit world, [920] 00:30:41.550 --> 00:30:43.550 they come through showing their [921] 00:30:44.050 --> 00:30:44.990 personality. That's how we know [922] 00:30:45.490 --> 00:30:46.550 who it is. Right? So if they [923] 00:30:47.050 --> 00:30:48.390 were not a nice person, if they [924] 00:30:48.890 --> 00:30:50.150 were, let's say, an alcoholic [925] 00:30:50.650 --> 00:30:51.310 [926] 00:30:51.810 --> 00:30:52.550 way, that's what they're going [927] 00:30:53.050 --> 00:30:54.030 to show me first. And I'm going [928] 00:30:54.530 --> 00:30:54.870 to say, there's a, you know, [929] 00:30:55.370 --> 00:30:56.990 there's a man here, and it feels [930] 00:30:57.490 --> 00:30:57.950 like it's really close family. [931] 00:30:58.450 --> 00:30:59.030 Could be your father or [932] 00:30:59.530 --> 00:31:01.630 grandfather, but he had a [933] 00:31:02.130 --> 00:31:03.720 drinking problem and he was not [934] 00:31:04.220 --> 00:31:05.160 nice, and he would yell and [935] 00:31:05.660 --> 00:31:06.680 scream, you know, when he got [936] 00:31:07.180 --> 00:31:08.720 drunk. Yep, that's my dad, says [937] 00:31:09.220 --> 00:31:10.560 the client. Right. Wow. And then [938] 00:31:10.960 --> 00:31:12.600 the. The spirit changes and [939] 00:31:13.100 --> 00:31:14.560 says, I am so sorry for all the [940] 00:31:15.060 --> 00:31:17.320 harm I caused you. Right. So we [942] 00:31:18.940 --> 00:31:20.080 when they come through, they're [943] 00:31:20.580 --> 00:31:21.480 going to show who they were. [944] 00:31:21.980 --> 00:31:22.600 Because if they came through and [945] 00:31:23.100 --> 00:31:25.080 said, oh, I, you know, I'm so [946] 00:31:25.580 --> 00:31:27.040 sorry, yeah, I love you, blah, [947] 00:31:27.540 --> 00:31:28.280 blah, blah. You know, we're not [948] 00:31:28.780 --> 00:31:29.320 going to recognize the person, [949] 00:31:29.820 --> 00:31:30.520 so they have to show who they [950] 00:31:31.020 --> 00:31:31.920 were first so we can recognize [951] 00:31:32.420 --> 00:31:32.920 that we know who we're talking [952] 00:31:33.420 --> 00:31:35.890 to. And then the apologies come [953] 00:31:36.130 --> 00:31:37.530 and they're really sorry and [954] 00:31:38.030 --> 00:31:38.930 they're, you know, I'm going To [955] 00:31:39.430 --> 00:31:40.450 say the most common is, you [956] 00:31:40.950 --> 00:31:41.770 know, they're sorry for the harm [958] 00:31:44.270 --> 00:31:45.450 you know, often proud of. Of [959] 00:31:45.950 --> 00:31:46.930 the, you know, you as a person. [960] 00:31:47.570 --> 00:31:49.489 But you can see that turnaround, [961] 00:31:49.989 --> 00:31:51.650 because I'm going to say, you [962] 00:31:52.150 --> 00:31:52.810 know, we have an agenda when [963] 00:31:53.310 --> 00:31:54.010 we're here and we're supposed to [964] 00:31:54.510 --> 00:31:55.850 incarnate. We have some free [965] 00:31:56.350 --> 00:31:58.490 will. And maybe that person was [966] 00:31:58.990 --> 00:32:00.370 given a chance to correct that [967] 00:32:00.870 --> 00:32:01.970 in this life, but they couldn't. [968] 00:32:02.590 --> 00:32:03.390 They couldn't correct [969] 00:32:03.890 --> 00:32:04.310 alcoholism. They couldn't [970] 00:32:04.810 --> 00:32:05.350 correct the abuse. They just [971] 00:32:05.850 --> 00:32:06.990 couldn't do it. And so here we [972] 00:32:07.490 --> 00:32:07.830 [973] 00:32:08.330 --> 00:32:09.870 another life and try and correct [974] 00:32:10.370 --> 00:32:12.110 it again. Who knows? But you [975] 00:32:12.610 --> 00:32:13.030 know what I'm saying? It's just [976] 00:32:13.530 --> 00:32:15.630 we come with an agenda. We may [977] 00:32:16.130 --> 00:32:17.230 fulfill it or we may not. And [978] 00:32:17.470 --> 00:32:19.910 sometimes I think what [979] 00:32:20.410 --> 00:32:21.310 astrologers have told me that [980] 00:32:21.810 --> 00:32:22.990 some people come, it's like a [981] 00:32:23.490 --> 00:32:24.590 cross in their chart. And so it [982] 00:32:25.090 --> 00:32:26.630 makes it very difficult for them [983] 00:32:27.130 --> 00:32:28.310 to change in this life. They [984] 00:32:28.810 --> 00:32:29.630 came with a personality, and [985] 00:32:30.130 --> 00:32:31.030 that's part of the lesson [986] 00:32:31.530 --> 00:32:32.070 they're learning in this life, [987] 00:32:32.570 --> 00:32:34.490 is they're getting it divorce, [989] 00:32:36.190 --> 00:32:37.610 own feet. They have to find [990] 00:32:38.110 --> 00:32:40.490 their way in this life. And. [991] 00:32:40.990 --> 00:32:42.610 And that's just. They incarnated [992] 00:32:43.110 --> 00:32:44.890 for that, and they have to find [993] 00:32:45.390 --> 00:32:46.130 their own path. They have to [994] 00:32:46.630 --> 00:32:47.890 find their own way. They have to [995] 00:32:48.390 --> 00:32:49.250 get out of that jam on their [996] 00:32:49.750 --> 00:32:50.169 own. You can't. You know, you [997] 00:32:50.669 --> 00:32:51.290 can lead a horse to water, but [998] 00:32:51.790 --> 00:32:53.450 you can't make him drink. So, [999] 00:32:53.930 --> 00:32:55.130 yeah, so it's really interesting [1000] 00:32:55.630 --> 00:32:56.450 because we. We come with that [1001] 00:32:56.950 --> 00:32:58.690 agenda. And, you know, when my [1002] 00:32:59.190 --> 00:33:01.420 mom said, you know, oh, my gosh, [1003] 00:33:01.920 --> 00:33:02.060 you're just like your [1005] 00:33:04.020 --> 00:33:04.980 having more and more [1006] 00:33:05.480 --> 00:33:07.700 experiences, and years went by [1007] 00:33:08.660 --> 00:33:10.420 and took me 12 years to trust in [1008] 00:33:10.920 --> 00:33:12.860 the spirit world. It's like I [1009] 00:33:13.360 --> 00:33:15.220 needed so much proof and so much [1010] 00:33:15.720 --> 00:33:16.660 evidence, and every time [1011] 00:33:17.160 --> 00:33:17.980 something would happen or I [1012] 00:33:18.480 --> 00:33:19.340 would know something, I would [1013] 00:33:19.840 --> 00:33:21.020 write it down. I would tell my [1014] 00:33:21.520 --> 00:33:22.260 kids, I would tell my husband, [1015] 00:33:22.580 --> 00:33:24.500 because otherwise I would just [1016] 00:33:25.000 --> 00:33:26.500 say, oh, it was just a deja vu. [1017] 00:33:26.660 --> 00:33:28.320 It was just my memory playing [1018] 00:33:28.820 --> 00:33:30.880 tricks on me. And so if I wrote [1019] 00:33:31.380 --> 00:33:32.640 [1020] 00:33:33.140 --> 00:33:34.000 say, okay, well, I wrote it [1021] 00:33:34.500 --> 00:33:36.160 down. I did have this knowledge [1022] 00:33:36.660 --> 00:33:37.480 yesterday or three days ago, [1023] 00:33:37.800 --> 00:33:39.840 and I saw my. I knew my dad was [1024] 00:33:40.340 --> 00:33:42.880 passing away. So my dad had a [1025] 00:33:43.380 --> 00:33:45.480 stroke, and this is like year [1026] 00:33:45.980 --> 00:33:47.680 2000, he had a stroke, and he [1027] 00:33:48.180 --> 00:33:51.360 was 81 at the time. And I called [1028] 00:33:51.860 --> 00:33:52.480 one of my brothers. I have three [1029] 00:33:52.980 --> 00:33:53.680 older brothers, and one is a [1030] 00:33:54.180 --> 00:33:55.280 surgeon. And I called my surgeon [1031] 00:33:55.780 --> 00:33:56.280 Brother. And I said, hey, [1032] 00:33:56.360 --> 00:33:57.880 should I get on a flight like [1033] 00:33:58.380 --> 00:33:59.320 now, tomorrow? Because we were [1034] 00:33:59.820 --> 00:34:00.540 living in California and it [1036] 00:34:02.500 --> 00:34:03.820 And he said, you know, he's [1037] 00:34:04.320 --> 00:34:05.580 doing, he's doing well. They've [1038] 00:34:06.080 --> 00:34:06.780 moved him. They're going to be [1039] 00:34:07.280 --> 00:34:09.260 moving him into the rehab. He. [1040] 00:34:09.760 --> 00:34:10.820 He's lost his ability to speak, [1041] 00:34:11.320 --> 00:34:12.300 but he's laughing at our jokes, [1042] 00:34:12.800 --> 00:34:13.580 so we know he's understanding [1043] 00:34:14.080 --> 00:34:15.300 what we're saying. That's [1044] 00:34:15.800 --> 00:34:17.380 wonderful, right? So he said, [1045] 00:34:17.880 --> 00:34:19.580 you just come. I think this was [1046] 00:34:20.080 --> 00:34:20.820 like Tuesday or Wednesday. And [1047] 00:34:21.320 --> 00:34:22.020 he said, just come next week. [1048] 00:34:22.260 --> 00:34:23.300 So we said, all right, I'm going [1049] 00:34:23.800 --> 00:34:25.140 to bring the kids. My kids were [1050] 00:34:25.710 --> 00:34:28.270 like 12, nine and a half and six [1052] 00:34:30.690 --> 00:34:31.710 husband's gonna stay behind. I [1053] 00:34:32.210 --> 00:34:32.830 was gonna bring the kids over. [1054] 00:34:33.870 --> 00:34:36.790 We had just recently, we had [1055] 00:34:37.290 --> 00:34:37.750 three months earlier, we had [1056] 00:34:38.250 --> 00:34:39.630 moved to San Francisco. So my [1057] 00:34:40.130 --> 00:34:42.350 kids were like in a transition [1058] 00:34:42.850 --> 00:34:43.590 space. So it was easy to bring [1059] 00:34:44.090 --> 00:34:46.950 the kids along. And as we were [1060] 00:34:47.450 --> 00:34:48.230 going to the bookstore that [1061] 00:34:48.730 --> 00:34:50.230 Friday afternoon, so now it's [1062] 00:34:50.730 --> 00:34:52.410 Friday evening in Sweden, I kept [1063] 00:34:52.910 --> 00:34:54.090 seeing a coffin. And I knew it [1064] 00:34:54.590 --> 00:34:56.130 was my dad's coffin. And I saw [1065] 00:34:56.630 --> 00:34:59.170 it on an angle from above. Now, [1066] 00:34:59.670 --> 00:35:01.130 [1067] 00:35:01.630 --> 00:35:03.490 in Sweden, right, The coffin is [1068] 00:35:03.990 --> 00:35:04.690 either horizontally or [1069] 00:35:05.190 --> 00:35:06.570 vertically placed in the church [1070] 00:35:07.070 --> 00:35:08.410 in the front of the people. I'm [1071] 00:35:08.910 --> 00:35:11.050 seeing the coffin from above on [1072] 00:35:11.550 --> 00:35:14.570 an angle. Very weird, right? [1073] 00:35:14.730 --> 00:35:16.250 And it's a white coffin. It's [1074] 00:35:16.750 --> 00:35:17.210 with a specific flower [1075] 00:35:17.710 --> 00:35:18.250 arrangement with kind of like [1076] 00:35:18.750 --> 00:35:21.430 dark red violet flowers. So I [1077] 00:35:21.930 --> 00:35:22.830 keep seeing the coffin and I [1078] 00:35:23.330 --> 00:35:24.070 keep telling my husband, I keep [1079] 00:35:24.570 --> 00:35:25.390 seeing my coffin. I know my [1080] 00:35:25.890 --> 00:35:27.350 dad's gonna die. And my husband [1081] 00:35:27.850 --> 00:35:28.430 said, no, no, no, no, no, he's [1083] 00:35:30.090 --> 00:35:31.110 they moved him into rehab. He's [1084] 00:35:31.610 --> 00:35:33.150 doing well. Nobody is calling [1085] 00:35:33.650 --> 00:35:34.430 you. You're just worried about [1086] 00:35:34.930 --> 00:35:36.189 him. Well, it kept going, which [1087] 00:35:36.689 --> 00:35:37.750 makes sense, by the way, that [1088] 00:35:38.250 --> 00:35:39.390 you would make perfect sense. [1089] 00:35:39.710 --> 00:35:41.710 And so then we get there. We get [1090] 00:35:42.210 --> 00:35:43.470 there Tuesday morning, we fly [1091] 00:35:43.970 --> 00:35:45.110 out Monday, get there Tuesday [1092] 00:35:45.610 --> 00:35:46.710 morning. And it wasn't one of my [1093] 00:35:47.210 --> 00:35:47.910 brothers meeting me, it was my [1094] 00:35:48.410 --> 00:35:49.580 sister in law. So right away I [1095] 00:35:50.080 --> 00:35:51.300 knew something was wrong. And [1096] 00:35:51.800 --> 00:35:52.540 she said, we have to go now. [1097] 00:35:52.620 --> 00:35:53.780 And I'm like, can we use the [1099] 00:35:56.060 --> 00:35:58.580 we're leaving now. And we're [1100] 00:35:59.080 --> 00:36:00.620 like, okay. So. Because it was [1101] 00:36:01.120 --> 00:36:02.260 bumpy. It was bumpy like the [1102] 00:36:02.760 --> 00:36:03.780 last two hours. And we were [1103] 00:36:04.280 --> 00:36:04.700 like, okay, we're just getting [1104] 00:36:05.200 --> 00:36:06.940 in the car and, you know, drove [1105] 00:36:07.440 --> 00:36:08.820 about 45 minutes to get into the [1106] 00:36:09.320 --> 00:36:11.100 city. And she drops me off at [1107] 00:36:11.600 --> 00:36:12.620 the hospital she takes my kids, [1108] 00:36:13.260 --> 00:36:14.980 and I get up, you know, [1109] 00:36:15.480 --> 00:36:16.820 upstairs, and my dad passes away [1110] 00:36:17.320 --> 00:36:19.440 an hour after I get there. So, [1111] 00:36:19.940 --> 00:36:20.680 I mean, he literally just [1112] 00:36:21.180 --> 00:36:22.120 waited. But here comes the [1113] 00:36:22.280 --> 00:36:24.080 [1114] 00:36:24.580 --> 00:36:25.120 course, we changed our tickets [1115] 00:36:25.620 --> 00:36:27.320 to go back home. We. My mom [1116] 00:36:27.400 --> 00:36:28.880 takes us to the flower store. [1117] 00:36:29.380 --> 00:36:30.320 We are getting flowers for the [1118] 00:36:30.820 --> 00:36:33.000 funeral. There's, like, I don't [1119] 00:36:33.500 --> 00:36:34.040 know if it was two or three [1120] 00:36:34.119 --> 00:36:36.080 thick binders with flower [1121] 00:36:36.580 --> 00:36:38.040 arrangements. She narrows it [1122] 00:36:38.540 --> 00:36:40.840 down to this one. Page one has, [1123] 00:36:41.340 --> 00:36:42.400 like, a blue flower arrangement. [1124] 00:36:42.900 --> 00:36:43.800 And on the bottom right corner [1125] 00:36:44.300 --> 00:36:45.840 in this binder was the exact [1126] 00:36:46.340 --> 00:36:47.400 flower arrangement that I had [1127] 00:36:47.900 --> 00:36:49.690 seen in the image of when. The [1128] 00:36:50.190 --> 00:36:51.570 image of the coffin with the [1130] 00:36:53.390 --> 00:36:54.530 goodness. She asks me, she says, [1131] 00:36:55.170 --> 00:36:56.610 which one do you think I should [1132] 00:36:57.110 --> 00:36:58.370 pick? The blue one or this one? [1133] 00:36:58.690 --> 00:37:00.090 Well, I know which one I had [1134] 00:37:00.590 --> 00:37:02.170 seen in the image. So the [1135] 00:37:02.670 --> 00:37:03.930 science person that I am, I need [1136] 00:37:04.430 --> 00:37:04.970 confirmation on everything [1137] 00:37:05.470 --> 00:37:06.130 because I'm still going through [1138] 00:37:06.630 --> 00:37:08.130 my, you know, learning. [1139] 00:37:08.290 --> 00:37:10.570 Learning to trust. So I said to [1140] 00:37:11.070 --> 00:37:13.530 mom, well, you know, you know, [1141] 00:37:14.030 --> 00:37:15.460 you knew dad the best. Why don't [1142] 00:37:15.960 --> 00:37:17.100 you pick the one that you think [1143] 00:37:17.600 --> 00:37:18.500 he would have liked the best? [1144] 00:37:18.980 --> 00:37:20.220 So she goes, I think he would [1146] 00:37:22.080 --> 00:37:23.860 red violet ones. So she picks [1147] 00:37:24.360 --> 00:37:25.180 the exact flower arrangement [1148] 00:37:25.680 --> 00:37:26.380 that I had seen in the image on [1149] 00:37:26.880 --> 00:37:28.820 that coffin. Then we get to the [1150] 00:37:29.320 --> 00:37:31.900 funeral. It's held in this [1151] 00:37:32.400 --> 00:37:33.860 cremation center. So I don't [1152] 00:37:34.360 --> 00:37:35.220 know what happened with the [1153] 00:37:35.720 --> 00:37:36.660 church thing. He didn't want to [1154] 00:37:37.160 --> 00:37:37.900 have. I guess my dad didn't want [1155] 00:37:38.400 --> 00:37:39.100 to have a funeral in the church [1156] 00:37:39.600 --> 00:37:40.900 for whatever reason. So we were [1157] 00:37:41.400 --> 00:37:43.340 in this cremation center, and it [1158] 00:37:43.840 --> 00:37:46.880 was a round room, right? [1159] 00:37:47.380 --> 00:37:49.040 And it was a round room, and it [1160] 00:37:49.540 --> 00:37:50.560 [1161] 00:37:51.060 --> 00:37:52.120 were going up. So you were, [1162] 00:37:52.620 --> 00:37:54.640 like, sitting on tears in this [1163] 00:37:55.140 --> 00:37:57.160 round room. And so now I [1164] 00:37:57.660 --> 00:37:59.520 understand why I saw the coffin [1165] 00:38:00.020 --> 00:38:02.320 from above on an angle. But [1166] 00:38:02.820 --> 00:38:03.760 again, I don't want to go sit in [1167] 00:38:04.260 --> 00:38:05.680 that spot. So I'm going to ask [1168] 00:38:06.180 --> 00:38:08.240 the person. I said, hi, my name [1169] 00:38:08.740 --> 00:38:10.160 is. I am the daughter of the [1170] 00:38:10.660 --> 00:38:12.080 deceased. Where should I be [1171] 00:38:12.580 --> 00:38:14.130 sitting? And she goes, right [1172] 00:38:14.450 --> 00:38:16.730 there. And so she takes me to my [1173] 00:38:17.230 --> 00:38:18.170 seat, and guess what? It was the [1174] 00:38:18.670 --> 00:38:20.370 exact angle from above on the [1175] 00:38:20.870 --> 00:38:22.370 right that I had seen the image. [1177] 00:38:25.630 --> 00:38:26.690 mean, why is it that we can see [1178] 00:38:27.190 --> 00:38:28.850 the future before it happens, [1179] 00:38:28.930 --> 00:38:30.610 right? And I have many stories [1180] 00:38:31.110 --> 00:38:31.770 like that when I've seen the [1181] 00:38:32.270 --> 00:38:33.410 future. But because you talked [1182] 00:38:33.910 --> 00:38:34.530 about, you know, your mom dying, [1183] 00:38:34.690 --> 00:38:36.450 that's the story that came. But [1184] 00:38:36.610 --> 00:38:38.650 we can see the future, right? I [1185] 00:38:39.150 --> 00:38:40.570 had a. I'll tell you a quick [1186] 00:38:41.070 --> 00:38:42.690 Other story, which is I was [1187] 00:38:43.190 --> 00:38:43.930 living. I was doing my residency [1188] 00:38:44.430 --> 00:38:45.310 up in the mountains, north hour, [1189] 00:38:45.710 --> 00:38:47.630 two hours north towards Sedona [1190] 00:38:48.270 --> 00:38:50.430 here in Arizona. And I was going [1191] 00:38:50.930 --> 00:38:51.510 down to Phoenix to visit my [1193] 00:38:53.730 --> 00:38:54.230 and my purse off the kitchen [1194] 00:38:54.730 --> 00:38:57.230 counter. As I do that, I hear, [1195] 00:38:57.310 --> 00:38:58.750 watch out for the red truck. [1196] 00:38:59.070 --> 00:39:00.830 And I see an image of a red [1197] 00:39:01.330 --> 00:39:02.350 truck that swerves into the left [1198] 00:39:02.850 --> 00:39:03.630 lane and back into the right [1199] 00:39:04.130 --> 00:39:05.710 lane. And I know it's on the 17 [1200] 00:39:05.790 --> 00:39:07.430 freeway that goes through the [1201] 00:39:07.930 --> 00:39:08.750 mountains down into the valley [1202] 00:39:09.250 --> 00:39:10.990 to Phoenix. So I get in my car, [1203] 00:39:11.490 --> 00:39:12.550 I drive 45 minutes. I finally [1204] 00:39:13.050 --> 00:39:15.020 get to the 17, and I'm on. Now [1205] 00:39:15.520 --> 00:39:16.500 I'm on this freeway. I know what [1206] 00:39:17.000 --> 00:39:18.060 the message was. Watch out for [1207] 00:39:18.560 --> 00:39:20.380 [1208] 00:39:20.880 --> 00:39:22.060 white truck, black truck, white [1209] 00:39:22.560 --> 00:39:22.980 truck. There's so many white [1210] 00:39:23.480 --> 00:39:25.140 trucks here. Eventually, I come [1211] 00:39:25.640 --> 00:39:27.060 up on a red truck. So I'm [1212] 00:39:27.560 --> 00:39:28.100 sitting behind. So there's only [1213] 00:39:28.600 --> 00:39:29.940 two lanes on this freeway. I'm [1214] 00:39:30.440 --> 00:39:31.540 behind the truck. There is a car [1215] 00:39:32.040 --> 00:39:34.740 passing it. So I'm like, well, [1216] 00:39:35.240 --> 00:39:35.940 I heard the warning. Watch out [1217] 00:39:36.440 --> 00:39:37.340 for the red truck. I have a [1218] 00:39:37.840 --> 00:39:38.970 guardrail on my left. So if I. [1219] 00:39:39.120 --> 00:39:41.040 I follow the car in front of me [1220] 00:39:41.440 --> 00:39:43.200 and this car and this truck then [1221] 00:39:43.700 --> 00:39:44.480 swerves into the left lane, I [1222] 00:39:44.980 --> 00:39:45.800 have nowhere to go. I'm going to [1224] 00:39:47.740 --> 00:39:49.040 ravine, basically off the [1225] 00:39:49.540 --> 00:39:50.640 guardrail. Right? Right. So I'm [1226] 00:39:51.140 --> 00:39:51.640 not going to do that. So I'm [1227] 00:39:52.140 --> 00:39:52.960 sitting behind the truck. I know [1228] 00:39:53.460 --> 00:39:55.159 to trust the messages. So I sit [1229] 00:39:55.659 --> 00:39:56.680 behind the truck. I wait and [1230] 00:39:57.180 --> 00:39:58.280 wait and wait for this car to [1231] 00:39:58.780 --> 00:40:00.760 finally pass and be in front of [1232] 00:40:01.260 --> 00:40:02.640 the truck. Enough space that [1233] 00:40:03.040 --> 00:40:04.440 when I don't have the guardrail [1234] 00:40:04.940 --> 00:40:05.760 anymore and there is a shoulder, [1235] 00:40:06.000 --> 00:40:08.440 I can quickly try and pass the [1236] 00:40:08.940 --> 00:40:09.980 truck. Truck, right. Well, I'm [1237] 00:40:10.480 --> 00:40:11.100 sitting behind the truck. The [1238] 00:40:11.600 --> 00:40:12.380 other car is now completely in [1240] 00:40:14.640 --> 00:40:15.980 the truck do? It completely [1241] 00:40:16.480 --> 00:40:17.580 swerves into the left lane and [1242] 00:40:18.080 --> 00:40:19.460 back into the right. I'm just [1243] 00:40:19.960 --> 00:40:21.460 like, thank you, spirit world. [1244] 00:40:21.960 --> 00:40:23.740 Thank you for saving me. Oh, my [1245] 00:40:24.240 --> 00:40:25.420 goodness. And I've had lots of [1246] 00:40:25.920 --> 00:40:26.980 experiences like that, you know, [1247] 00:40:27.480 --> 00:40:28.380 so people out there that are [1248] 00:40:28.880 --> 00:40:29.620 listening, when you get a [1249] 00:40:30.120 --> 00:40:31.340 message like that, don't [1250] 00:40:31.840 --> 00:40:32.900 discount it. Listen, don't [1251] 00:40:33.400 --> 00:40:33.980 discount it. That could be your [1252] 00:40:34.480 --> 00:40:35.020 spirit guide. It could be an [1253] 00:40:35.520 --> 00:40:36.340 ancestor. You're getting that [1254] 00:40:36.840 --> 00:40:38.340 [1255] 00:40:38.840 --> 00:40:40.060 just trust it. Better to be safe [1256] 00:40:40.560 --> 00:40:42.720 than sor. Right? Right. Yeah. [1257] 00:40:43.200 --> 00:40:45.120 Every single time. Yeah, every [1258] 00:40:45.620 --> 00:40:46.440 single time. But, you know, [1259] 00:40:46.940 --> 00:40:48.360 what is that? So, I mean, the. [1260] 00:40:48.860 --> 00:40:50.080 The future is already there. [1261] 00:40:50.640 --> 00:40:52.240 Right? Is that why there was no [1262] 00:40:52.740 --> 00:40:54.600 time on the other side? Why is [1263] 00:40:55.100 --> 00:40:55.960 it that the we can see the [1264] 00:40:56.460 --> 00:40:57.440 future. I saw my kids [1265] 00:40:58.320 --> 00:41:01.080 simultaneously. I saw my kids in [1266] 00:41:01.580 --> 00:41:03.320 a remote viewing when we lived [1267] 00:41:03.820 --> 00:41:04.560 in. In the San Francisco Bay [1268] 00:41:05.060 --> 00:41:06.240 area. My kids were in the city [1269] 00:41:06.740 --> 00:41:09.520 and my son was driving the car [1271] 00:41:11.780 --> 00:41:12.400 front seat. My daughter, who was [1272] 00:41:12.900 --> 00:41:14.160 about 14 at the time, was in the [1273] 00:41:14.660 --> 00:41:16.640 backseat. And I'm on my way. [1274] 00:41:17.140 --> 00:41:17.920 I'm walking into the kitchen. [1275] 00:41:18.320 --> 00:41:19.800 You know, we're like 40 minutes [1276] 00:41:20.300 --> 00:41:21.000 from this someday, from the [1277] 00:41:21.500 --> 00:41:23.000 city, in a suburb in East Bay, [1278] 00:41:23.500 --> 00:41:24.920 San Francisco. And as I walk to [1279] 00:41:25.420 --> 00:41:27.240 the kitchen, all of a sudden [1280] 00:41:27.740 --> 00:41:28.520 it's like I'm standing on the [1281] 00:41:29.020 --> 00:41:31.360 sidewalk in San Francisco. I see [1282] 00:41:31.860 --> 00:41:34.120 my kids at the red light, and I [1283] 00:41:34.620 --> 00:41:35.200 can see my son looking at the [1284] 00:41:35.700 --> 00:41:36.800 light. He's waiting for the [1285] 00:41:37.300 --> 00:41:39.000 light to turn red and he's going [1287] 00:41:41.260 --> 00:41:42.780 when it's on yellow going to [1288] 00:41:43.280 --> 00:41:44.780 red, okay? So he waits for that. [1289] 00:41:45.280 --> 00:41:45.940 I can see him looking at the [1290] 00:41:46.440 --> 00:41:46.820 light. He's looking. It's [1291] 00:41:47.320 --> 00:41:47.980 yellow, it's going to red. [1292] 00:41:48.220 --> 00:41:50.300 There is a truck bombing down [1293] 00:41:50.800 --> 00:41:51.580 the street in the opposite [1294] 00:41:52.080 --> 00:41:53.820 direction. And as it goes from [1295] 00:41:54.320 --> 00:41:55.620 yellow to red, my son whips the [1296] 00:41:56.120 --> 00:41:58.220 car around, thinking that the [1297] 00:41:58.720 --> 00:41:59.660 truck is going to stop. Stop, [1298] 00:42:00.160 --> 00:42:02.420 right, yeah. Accelerates. He's [1299] 00:42:02.920 --> 00:42:03.740 saying, I can make it through [1300] 00:42:04.240 --> 00:42:06.060 before the red light. So as my [1301] 00:42:06.560 --> 00:42:07.940 [1302] 00:42:08.440 --> 00:42:10.100 truck accelerates and literally [1303] 00:42:10.600 --> 00:42:12.520 misses my kid's car by inch, [1304] 00:42:12.680 --> 00:42:14.320 right? I'm having a literally [1305] 00:42:14.820 --> 00:42:15.520 feel like I'm having a heart [1306] 00:42:16.020 --> 00:42:17.080 attack in the kitchen. I [1307] 00:42:17.240 --> 00:42:18.800 literally sat down on my kitchen [1308] 00:42:19.300 --> 00:42:20.360 counter for 10 minutes to wait [1309] 00:42:20.860 --> 00:42:21.720 for my heart to stop pounding. [1310] 00:42:21.800 --> 00:42:24.440 And I can see my kids car going [1311] 00:42:24.940 --> 00:42:25.800 off into the distance. So I knew [1312] 00:42:26.300 --> 00:42:28.239 they were okay. And then when [1313] 00:42:28.739 --> 00:42:29.400 they came home, you know, like [1314] 00:42:29.900 --> 00:42:31.360 an hour or two later, I said, [1315] 00:42:31.860 --> 00:42:32.280 well, I'm going to feed them [1316] 00:42:32.780 --> 00:42:34.240 first. Because they were had [1318] 00:42:36.140 --> 00:42:37.320 in the performing arts. And so I [1319] 00:42:37.820 --> 00:42:38.160 knew they were really hungry, [1320] 00:42:38.660 --> 00:42:38.920 so I said, I'm going to feed [1321] 00:42:39.420 --> 00:42:40.500 them first. As soon as my [1322] 00:42:41.000 --> 00:42:41.860 daughter took the last bite, [1323] 00:42:42.360 --> 00:42:43.180 she looks up at me and she goes, [1324] 00:42:43.680 --> 00:42:45.300 mom, we almost got hit by a [1325] 00:42:45.800 --> 00:42:47.300 truck. And I said, yeah, I know. [1326] 00:42:47.800 --> 00:42:49.700 I saw you make the U turn. Oh, [1327] 00:42:50.200 --> 00:42:52.100 my goodness. Jaw does just drop. [1328] 00:42:52.600 --> 00:42:53.500 It's just like stared at me. [1329] 00:42:53.740 --> 00:42:55.500 And that's the only time I've [1330] 00:42:56.000 --> 00:42:57.900 had that experience of seeing [1331] 00:42:58.400 --> 00:42:59.780 something, you know, live. And I [1332] 00:43:00.280 --> 00:43:01.100 know like the military used to [1334] 00:43:03.000 --> 00:43:03.540 back. Right, right, right, [1335] 00:43:04.040 --> 00:43:05.460 yeah, 70s. I've learned that [1336] 00:43:05.960 --> 00:43:06.540 from, you know, trying to figure [1337] 00:43:07.040 --> 00:43:08.250 out about how can you see [1338] 00:43:08.750 --> 00:43:10.410 something at a distance, but, [1339] 00:43:10.490 --> 00:43:11.770 you know, we're all connected. [1340] 00:43:12.090 --> 00:43:14.290 I mean, so. And especially to [1341] 00:43:14.790 --> 00:43:15.650 our children and loved ones. [1342] 00:43:16.150 --> 00:43:17.210 We're very, very much connected [1343] 00:43:17.370 --> 00:43:19.850 to them. And, you know, and also [1344] 00:43:20.350 --> 00:43:21.690 I'm here on my spiritual journey [1345] 00:43:22.190 --> 00:43:22.969 in this life. I'm. I'm this [1346] 00:43:23.469 --> 00:43:24.890 spiritual healer and I think, [1347] 00:43:24.970 --> 00:43:26.490 you know, part of it is having a [1348] 00:43:26.990 --> 00:43:28.770 [1349] 00:43:29.270 --> 00:43:29.930 help other people understand [1350] 00:43:30.430 --> 00:43:31.490 their experiences, but also to [1351] 00:43:31.990 --> 00:43:33.250 turn it around and bring healing [1352] 00:43:33.750 --> 00:43:35.180 for people. People. So you [1353] 00:43:35.680 --> 00:43:37.220 mentioned something about the [1354] 00:43:37.720 --> 00:43:38.700 military doing that, and I know [1355] 00:43:39.200 --> 00:43:41.260 that that still goes on CIA and [1356] 00:43:41.760 --> 00:43:43.220 I wasn't the Monroe Institute. [1357] 00:43:43.540 --> 00:43:45.980 Really. Yeah. Integral in. In [1358] 00:43:46.480 --> 00:43:48.420 that. I thought so. I had. I [1359] 00:43:48.900 --> 00:43:51.180 read about that. And I know that [1360] 00:43:51.680 --> 00:43:54.180 you. A couple of different [1361] 00:43:54.680 --> 00:43:57.020 things. I. I listened to some of [1362] 00:43:57.520 --> 00:43:59.780 the. The recordings, the Monroe [1363] 00:43:59.860 --> 00:44:02.760 recordings, and find them [1365] 00:44:05.140 --> 00:44:05.920 they're on hemisync and you're. [1366] 00:44:06.420 --> 00:44:08.880 You're on hemisync and. As well [1367] 00:44:09.380 --> 00:44:11.440 as the SHIFT Network, which I [1368] 00:44:11.940 --> 00:44:13.880 believe Suzanne Geisman is. Is [1369] 00:44:14.380 --> 00:44:15.720 on there in. Yeah, yeah, I can [1370] 00:44:16.220 --> 00:44:17.600 see one of the faculty. Yeah, I [1371] 00:44:18.100 --> 00:44:18.720 am also on the faculty for the [1372] 00:44:19.220 --> 00:44:20.240 SHIFT Network. I've taught [1373] 00:44:20.740 --> 00:44:21.800 several courses for them. I've [1374] 00:44:22.300 --> 00:44:24.000 taught a lot of ancestral [1375] 00:44:24.500 --> 00:44:25.520 healing courses for the SHIFT [1376] 00:44:26.020 --> 00:44:28.160 Network. So that's. I'm glad [1377] 00:44:28.660 --> 00:44:31.000 we're kind of making that segue [1378] 00:44:31.500 --> 00:44:33.600 because epigenetics comes into [1379] 00:44:34.100 --> 00:44:35.680 play and we talk about the [1381] 00:44:39.260 --> 00:44:40.360 between metaphysical and [1382] 00:44:40.860 --> 00:44:42.800 science. And epigenetics is [1383] 00:44:43.300 --> 00:44:43.920 something that is becoming [1384] 00:44:44.420 --> 00:44:46.840 increasingly more prevalent as [1385] 00:44:47.340 --> 00:44:48.440 far as a theory and an [1386] 00:44:48.940 --> 00:44:49.720 understanding of how things [1387] 00:44:50.220 --> 00:44:53.200 happen, happen, which then goes [1388] 00:44:53.700 --> 00:44:54.950 to the ancestral natural [1389] 00:44:55.510 --> 00:44:57.510 healing. Correct. Is. Is that. [1390] 00:44:57.750 --> 00:44:59.270 That's where your tie comes in. [1391] 00:44:59.830 --> 00:45:01.830 So I want to talk about that. [1392] 00:45:02.330 --> 00:45:03.190 And I also want to talk about [1393] 00:45:03.270 --> 00:45:05.390 one thing else that you've [1394] 00:45:05.890 --> 00:45:06.550 mentioned before about the [1395] 00:45:07.050 --> 00:45:09.510 [1396] 00:45:10.470 --> 00:45:12.430 which, you know, hemisync is a [1397] 00:45:12.930 --> 00:45:15.910 lot of, you know, music or [1398] 00:45:16.470 --> 00:45:19.350 solfeggio frequencies, that sort [1399] 00:45:19.850 --> 00:45:21.270 of thing, as well as other [1400] 00:45:21.770 --> 00:45:26.350 recordings. But the frequencies [1401] 00:45:26.850 --> 00:45:31.390 and sound patterns that you're [1402] 00:45:31.890 --> 00:45:33.190 involved with as far as [1403] 00:45:33.690 --> 00:45:35.030 synchronization of brainwave [1404] 00:45:35.750 --> 00:45:36.470 activities. [1405] 00:45:39.350 --> 00:45:40.710 Can we talk a little bit about [1406] 00:45:41.210 --> 00:45:42.390 that? Because there's an obvious [1407] 00:45:42.550 --> 00:45:46.150 correlation between those things [1408] 00:45:46.310 --> 00:45:47.910 and the Drop the Needle podcast, [1409] 00:45:48.410 --> 00:45:51.660 because music being such a big [1410] 00:45:52.160 --> 00:45:53.660 part of my life, but also one of [1412] 00:45:56.800 --> 00:46:01.020 Muller is a sound therapist, [1413] 00:46:01.520 --> 00:46:05.380 certified sound therapist, [1414] 00:46:05.880 --> 00:46:07.140 as well as hypnotherapist and so [1415] 00:46:07.640 --> 00:46:08.380 on and so forth. And she makes [1416] 00:46:08.620 --> 00:46:11.020 beautiful soundscapes. And [1417] 00:46:11.180 --> 00:46:13.540 that's one of the things that we [1418] 00:46:14.040 --> 00:46:15.540 talk about regularly because of [1419] 00:46:16.040 --> 00:46:19.160 the. The meditations [1420] 00:46:19.660 --> 00:46:20.880 that I do in conjunction with [1421] 00:46:21.380 --> 00:46:22.120 her soundscapes in the [1422] 00:46:22.620 --> 00:46:23.320 background, depending upon what [1423] 00:46:23.820 --> 00:46:24.560 we're working on for that [1424] 00:46:24.640 --> 00:46:26.360 particular meditation. But I [1425] 00:46:26.860 --> 00:46:28.480 want to. I want you to tell me [1426] 00:46:29.120 --> 00:46:32.640 about essentially that being a. [1428] 00:46:35.420 --> 00:46:36.760 catch some sort of vibe and be, [1429] 00:46:37.260 --> 00:46:39.120 you know, and. And be in the, [1430] 00:46:39.680 --> 00:46:42.040 you know. Well, flow state is a [1431] 00:46:42.540 --> 00:46:45.260 vibe too, but can. Let's. I'll [1432] 00:46:45.760 --> 00:46:47.060 stop talking now because I'm. [1433] 00:46:47.380 --> 00:46:48.940 I'm trying to explain everything [1434] 00:46:49.440 --> 00:46:50.260 when you can do it much better. [1435] 00:46:50.740 --> 00:46:53.940 So have at it, please. Well, [1436] 00:46:54.340 --> 00:46:56.460 you know, the frequencies, you [1437] 00:46:56.960 --> 00:46:58.140 know, I'm not like a physicist [1438] 00:46:58.640 --> 00:46:59.380 or anything like that, but. [1439] 00:47:00.580 --> 00:47:02.180 Freak. Yes, but you are a [1440] 00:47:02.680 --> 00:47:03.540 science. You're involved with [1441] 00:47:04.040 --> 00:47:05.980 science, right? Everything is a [1442] 00:47:06.480 --> 00:47:07.980 [1443] 00:47:08.480 --> 00:47:10.580 frequency for dis ease. Right. [1444] 00:47:10.660 --> 00:47:12.420 Disease, right? You have, you [1445] 00:47:12.920 --> 00:47:13.460 know, your frequency is off. [1446] 00:47:14.000 --> 00:47:16.640 The way I look at it, it's like [1447] 00:47:16.800 --> 00:47:17.960 the whole body is like an [1448] 00:47:18.460 --> 00:47:20.480 orchestra, right? And if you [1449] 00:47:21.120 --> 00:47:23.560 sound very musical, why we get [1450] 00:47:24.060 --> 00:47:26.600 along. That's right. Because I [1451] 00:47:27.100 --> 00:47:27.880 grew up in music and I always [1452] 00:47:28.380 --> 00:47:30.960 hear music in my head. And so we [1453] 00:47:31.460 --> 00:47:32.280 are. I mean, the body is like an [1454] 00:47:32.780 --> 00:47:34.600 orchestra. Now if you listen to [1455] 00:47:35.100 --> 00:47:37.520 an orchestra and one violin is [1456] 00:47:38.020 --> 00:47:39.080 out of tune, you are going to [1457] 00:47:39.580 --> 00:47:40.080 hear that. You're going to say, [1459] 00:47:41.440 --> 00:47:43.120 Attention is drawn right to it, [1460] 00:47:43.900 --> 00:47:45.820 right? It's off. It's off key, [1461] 00:47:46.300 --> 00:47:48.260 right? Or if somebody is singing [1462] 00:47:48.760 --> 00:47:49.500 with the work assigned, same [1463] 00:47:50.000 --> 00:47:51.460 thing, right? You're going to [1464] 00:47:51.960 --> 00:47:53.460 know, wow, it's off key. I mean, [1465] 00:47:53.960 --> 00:47:54.500 it's the same thing with the [1466] 00:47:55.000 --> 00:47:56.740 body. The body, you know, we [1467] 00:47:57.240 --> 00:47:58.020 have kind of broken down in [1468] 00:47:58.520 --> 00:47:59.900 western medicine, the body, you [1469] 00:48:00.400 --> 00:48:00.940 know, oh, you have a heart [1470] 00:48:01.440 --> 00:48:01.940 problem, let's look at the [1471] 00:48:02.440 --> 00:48:03.540 heart. Oh, you have a liver [1472] 00:48:04.040 --> 00:48:04.420 problem, let's look at the [1473] 00:48:04.920 --> 00:48:06.060 liver. Right? We kind of [1475] 00:48:08.140 --> 00:48:09.860 works together. Which is now why [1476] 00:48:10.360 --> 00:48:11.020 we have more functional [1477] 00:48:11.520 --> 00:48:12.740 medicine. Doctor, holistic [1478] 00:48:13.240 --> 00:48:14.420 medicine, right? We're looking [1479] 00:48:14.920 --> 00:48:16.460 at the whole being. Everything [1480] 00:48:16.860 --> 00:48:18.860 plays a role. It's not just that [1481] 00:48:19.360 --> 00:48:22.860 one thing. You can have severe [1482] 00:48:23.360 --> 00:48:25.100 headaches, okay? You can have [1483] 00:48:25.600 --> 00:48:27.820 severe headache problems because [1484] 00:48:29.500 --> 00:48:30.980 you have what's called [1485] 00:48:31.480 --> 00:48:33.740 nutcracker syndrome, where the [1486] 00:48:34.300 --> 00:48:36.580 blood leaving, typically the [1487] 00:48:37.080 --> 00:48:39.580 left kidney, is being compressed [1488] 00:48:40.300 --> 00:48:41.660 between the aorta and the [1489] 00:48:42.160 --> 00:48:43.520 [1490] 00:48:44.020 --> 00:48:45.120 it looks like a nutcracker on [1491] 00:48:45.200 --> 00:48:47.520 imaging. Now, if the blood can't [1492] 00:48:48.020 --> 00:48:50.120 leave the kidney, what is the [1493] 00:48:50.620 --> 00:48:52.080 blood gonna do? It's gonna flow [1494] 00:48:52.580 --> 00:48:53.640 backwards, okay? It's gonna go [1495] 00:48:54.140 --> 00:48:54.880 back through the kidney, back [1496] 00:48:55.380 --> 00:48:57.000 down. It says, well, that [1497] 00:48:57.500 --> 00:48:58.640 highway is blocked, right? So [1498] 00:48:59.140 --> 00:49:00.120 think of it as like the blood [1499] 00:49:00.620 --> 00:49:01.680 has all these vessels. It's just [1500] 00:49:01.840 --> 00:49:03.640 like a road map. All these [1501] 00:49:04.140 --> 00:49:04.600 different roads. You got [1502] 00:49:05.100 --> 00:49:06.440 highways, you got kind of [1503] 00:49:06.940 --> 00:49:07.880 surface streets. You Got the [1504] 00:49:08.380 --> 00:49:09.560 dirt roads that are the smaller [1506] 00:49:12.170 --> 00:49:13.230 there is a backup, you're going [1507] 00:49:13.730 --> 00:49:14.070 to say, well, I'm going to get [1508] 00:49:14.570 --> 00:49:15.150 off the freeway. I'm going to [1509] 00:49:15.650 --> 00:49:16.790 take the surface streets, and [1510] 00:49:17.290 --> 00:49:17.870 you're going to go around that [1511] 00:49:18.370 --> 00:49:19.470 accident. Is it blocked? It's [1512] 00:49:19.970 --> 00:49:21.710 traffic. There's road work. The [1513] 00:49:22.210 --> 00:49:23.110 blood is moving so slowly [1514] 00:49:23.610 --> 00:49:24.510 because it's being compressed, [1515] 00:49:25.010 --> 00:49:26.190 so that vein kind of gets narrow [1516] 00:49:26.690 --> 00:49:27.710 right there, so the blood can't [1517] 00:49:28.210 --> 00:49:30.390 flow normally. Now you're [1518] 00:49:30.890 --> 00:49:31.950 thinking, well, I'm getting a [1519] 00:49:32.450 --> 00:49:32.950 headache. What does that have to [1520] 00:49:33.450 --> 00:49:33.870 do with the blood leaving my [1522] 00:49:36.330 --> 00:49:38.030 going to make new pathways and [1523] 00:49:38.530 --> 00:49:38.910 it's going to increase the [1524] 00:49:39.410 --> 00:49:40.670 pressure in other blood vessels [1525] 00:49:41.170 --> 00:49:42.640 in the spinal cord, and then [1526] 00:49:43.140 --> 00:49:43.600 that's going to trigger your [1527] 00:49:44.100 --> 00:49:45.160 headache. Has nothing to do with [1528] 00:49:45.660 --> 00:49:47.480 your head. Right? Right. [1529] 00:49:48.840 --> 00:49:50.840 So this is a perfect example of [1530] 00:49:51.000 --> 00:49:52.120 how you have to look at the [1531] 00:49:52.620 --> 00:49:54.480 whole being and not just the [1532] 00:49:54.980 --> 00:49:55.920 head. Because if you say, oh, [1533] 00:49:56.420 --> 00:49:56.720 well, you have a headache, must [1534] 00:49:57.220 --> 00:49:58.040 be a migraine then. Do you have [1535] 00:49:58.540 --> 00:49:59.880 an aura? Do you have this? Or [1536] 00:50:00.380 --> 00:50:00.800 [1537] 00:50:01.300 --> 00:50:02.000 pollen. It's something you ate. [1538] 00:50:02.500 --> 00:50:03.000 You didn't get enough sleep. [1539] 00:50:03.500 --> 00:50:04.200 You. You're. You must be [1540] 00:50:04.700 --> 00:50:06.120 experiencing stress. Right. And [1541] 00:50:06.620 --> 00:50:07.600 you go down and nothing is [1542] 00:50:08.100 --> 00:50:09.080 helping. Yeah. Because that's [1543] 00:50:09.580 --> 00:50:10.240 not where the problem is. The [1544] 00:50:10.740 --> 00:50:11.520 problem is a little tiny blood [1545] 00:50:12.020 --> 00:50:13.300 vessel that's not. Not. It's a [1546] 00:50:13.800 --> 00:50:15.220 traffic jam down there. You got [1547] 00:50:15.720 --> 00:50:16.780 to fix the traffic jam. Right. [1548] 00:50:16.860 --> 00:50:20.060 So we can see that in. [1549] 00:50:20.560 --> 00:50:22.100 Sometimes we have to look at the [1550] 00:50:22.600 --> 00:50:24.780 whole body, but that's also when [1551] 00:50:24.860 --> 00:50:26.340 the frequency is now off for [1553] 00:50:29.240 --> 00:50:29.660 feeling well, they keep getting [1554] 00:50:30.160 --> 00:50:30.940 headaches, nobody knows what's [1555] 00:50:31.440 --> 00:50:31.900 wrong, so they're just getting [1556] 00:50:32.400 --> 00:50:33.700 pain medication and the problem [1557] 00:50:34.200 --> 00:50:35.060 is never getting fixed until you [1558] 00:50:35.560 --> 00:50:35.940 actually have surgery and [1559] 00:50:36.440 --> 00:50:37.820 correct the problem. But many [1560] 00:50:38.320 --> 00:50:39.220 times it's like that, and many [1561] 00:50:39.720 --> 00:50:40.260 times people fall through the [1562] 00:50:40.760 --> 00:50:42.970 cracks because the way we're [1563] 00:50:43.470 --> 00:50:44.010 trained, we're, you know, [1564] 00:50:44.330 --> 00:50:45.930 Western medicine. You have to [1565] 00:50:46.430 --> 00:50:47.810 see a specialist in order for [1566] 00:50:48.310 --> 00:50:50.010 that to get found. Right. [1567] 00:50:50.090 --> 00:50:51.290 Because if you have a headache [1569] 00:50:52.870 --> 00:50:53.330 they're going to look in your [1570] 00:50:53.830 --> 00:50:55.370 head because it's as if this is [1571] 00:50:55.690 --> 00:50:57.210 by itself. Your little head [1572] 00:50:58.250 --> 00:50:59.970 belongs to the body below you. [1573] 00:51:00.470 --> 00:51:01.090 Let me get that head off the [1574] 00:51:01.590 --> 00:51:03.850 shelf. Yes. And then you get [1575] 00:51:04.350 --> 00:51:05.010 disease. Right. Then your [1576] 00:51:05.510 --> 00:51:06.130 frequency gets off because you [1577] 00:51:06.630 --> 00:51:07.970 can't function. You're tired, [1578] 00:51:08.470 --> 00:51:09.330 you're exhausted, your blood's [1579] 00:51:09.830 --> 00:51:10.345 not flowing, you have headaches, [1580] 00:51:10.845 --> 00:51:12.900 headaches. Right. And then now [1581] 00:51:13.400 --> 00:51:14.340 what happens with that? All [1582] 00:51:14.840 --> 00:51:15.940 those problems is probably going [1583] 00:51:16.440 --> 00:51:16.900 [1584] 00:51:17.140 --> 00:51:18.620 Right? Right. And Then that [1585] 00:51:19.120 --> 00:51:19.900 problem causes another problem [1586] 00:51:20.400 --> 00:51:21.020 because now you're exhausted, [1587] 00:51:21.520 --> 00:51:22.020 and then you get adrenal [1588] 00:51:22.520 --> 00:51:23.340 fatigue, and then your hormone [1589] 00:51:23.840 --> 00:51:24.860 balance get off and it just [1590] 00:51:25.360 --> 00:51:26.660 becomes this cascade. Right, [1591] 00:51:27.160 --> 00:51:28.860 right. And I have six problems [1592] 00:51:29.360 --> 00:51:30.260 instead of one problem. The one. [1593] 00:51:30.660 --> 00:51:32.660 Right. But, but it's. [1594] 00:51:33.160 --> 00:51:34.300 Everything is frequencies, you [1595] 00:51:34.800 --> 00:51:35.220 know, in the end. Because [1596] 00:51:35.720 --> 00:51:36.570 everything is energy in the end. [1597] 00:51:37.120 --> 00:51:38.800 Right. And so when we look at, [1598] 00:51:39.200 --> 00:51:40.480 you know, the frequencies, and [1600] 00:51:42.940 --> 00:51:43.800 the epigenetics. Right. So [1601] 00:51:44.300 --> 00:51:46.720 epigenetics is what runs the [1602] 00:51:47.220 --> 00:51:48.320 hard. The hardware. Right. Our [1603] 00:51:48.400 --> 00:51:50.320 genetics code. So it's not [1604] 00:51:50.820 --> 00:51:51.680 really that different from a [1605] 00:51:52.180 --> 00:51:53.120 computer. If you have a [1606] 00:51:53.620 --> 00:51:54.280 computer, you got all the [1607] 00:51:54.780 --> 00:51:56.160 hardware, you need the software [1608] 00:51:56.320 --> 00:51:58.680 to do stuff for you, but it's [1609] 00:51:59.180 --> 00:51:59.680 kind of the same with the body. [1610] 00:52:00.180 --> 00:52:01.280 So the epigenetics runs the [1611] 00:52:01.780 --> 00:52:03.200 code. Right. So that's just what [1612] 00:52:03.700 --> 00:52:04.930 the epigenetics does. But, but [1613] 00:52:05.490 --> 00:52:07.610 that epigenetics, we changed the [1614] 00:52:08.110 --> 00:52:09.810 coding based on our experiences. [1616] 00:52:12.690 --> 00:52:13.850 something different. And now [1617] 00:52:14.350 --> 00:52:15.970 we're. Let's say you were born [1618] 00:52:16.470 --> 00:52:17.850 with this cancer gene, like the [1619] 00:52:18.350 --> 00:52:19.730 BRCA gene. Doesn't mean you're [1620] 00:52:20.230 --> 00:52:21.130 going to get breast cancer. You [1621] 00:52:21.630 --> 00:52:22.730 were born with a gene. But, [1622] 00:52:23.230 --> 00:52:24.050 hey, you need the epigenetics, [1623] 00:52:24.550 --> 00:52:25.330 you need the software to run it. [1624] 00:52:25.410 --> 00:52:26.370 You need the perfect [1625] 00:52:26.870 --> 00:52:29.090 circumstances to activate it to [1626] 00:52:29.590 --> 00:52:30.250 produce the cancer. And that [1627] 00:52:30.750 --> 00:52:31.530 could be, you know, you were [1628] 00:52:32.030 --> 00:52:33.410 exposed to water contamination [1629] 00:52:33.490 --> 00:52:36.590 or the pesticides that spray on [1630] 00:52:37.090 --> 00:52:38.590 [1631] 00:52:38.990 --> 00:52:42.830 has codes that says your detox [1632] 00:52:43.230 --> 00:52:45.230 doesn't work that well. And so [1633] 00:52:45.730 --> 00:52:46.790 you're more prone to get an [1634] 00:52:47.290 --> 00:52:49.070 issue. So the whole family can [1635] 00:52:49.570 --> 00:52:51.110 have. Can have this gene. Your [1636] 00:52:51.610 --> 00:52:52.510 sister has it, your mom has it, [1637] 00:52:53.010 --> 00:52:54.150 your grandma has it. Doesn't [1638] 00:52:54.650 --> 00:52:55.670 mean any. And none of them got [1639] 00:52:56.170 --> 00:52:57.310 it. But you got breast cancer. [1640] 00:52:57.810 --> 00:52:59.310 Yeah. Because your genetic code [1641] 00:52:59.810 --> 00:53:00.770 is different and your detox [1642] 00:53:01.270 --> 00:53:02.570 cycle doesn't work as well. And [1643] 00:53:03.070 --> 00:53:04.010 now you got a problem. Right? [1644] 00:53:04.510 --> 00:53:05.370 So it's never just, it's never, [1645] 00:53:05.610 --> 00:53:07.090 you know, it's not as simple as [1647] 00:53:09.190 --> 00:53:10.170 look into things. Right. You [1648] 00:53:10.670 --> 00:53:11.290 know, there's so many different [1649] 00:53:11.370 --> 00:53:13.010 components because the whole [1650] 00:53:13.510 --> 00:53:15.370 body works like an orchestra. [1651] 00:53:15.690 --> 00:53:17.490 Like all the different parts are [1652] 00:53:17.990 --> 00:53:19.090 playing together. And you have [1653] 00:53:19.590 --> 00:53:20.570 to figure out which part is it [1654] 00:53:21.070 --> 00:53:22.370 that's not working in order to [1655] 00:53:22.870 --> 00:53:28.440 fix it. That is. And I [1656] 00:53:28.940 --> 00:53:31.040 find it incredibly fascinating [1657] 00:53:31.540 --> 00:53:36.000 to. I oftentimes will call [1658] 00:53:36.500 --> 00:53:38.640 these things rabbit holes for [1659] 00:53:39.140 --> 00:53:41.320 me, because they are. I'm just [1660] 00:53:41.820 --> 00:53:43.520 so intrigued by these topics. [1661] 00:53:43.920 --> 00:53:45.040 Well, tell me more about that. [1663] 00:53:46.500 --> 00:53:47.520 you know, those types of things. [1664] 00:53:48.080 --> 00:53:51.520 And so I know we're running out [1665] 00:53:52.020 --> 00:53:54.630 of time. Here. What I'm. Would [1666] 00:53:55.130 --> 00:53:57.710 you be open to doing another [1667] 00:53:58.270 --> 00:54:00.910 show too? Would you be? Okay. [1668] 00:54:01.070 --> 00:54:03.070 Yeah. It actually happens quite [1669] 00:54:03.570 --> 00:54:04.870 often because we have so much to [1670] 00:54:05.370 --> 00:54:06.390 talk about, sometimes a ton to [1671] 00:54:06.890 --> 00:54:08.390 talk about. And which is. I want [1672] 00:54:08.890 --> 00:54:10.270 to talk because I had mentioned [1673] 00:54:10.770 --> 00:54:11.830 it in the beginning about the [1674] 00:54:12.330 --> 00:54:13.590 session where I was fortunate [1675] 00:54:14.090 --> 00:54:14.950 enough to have an ancestral [1676] 00:54:15.450 --> 00:54:17.630 healing session with you and we [1677] 00:54:18.130 --> 00:54:18.750 [1678] 00:54:21.860 --> 00:54:22.420 Oh, the. [1679] 00:54:26.660 --> 00:54:28.660 Where you came from. Well, [1680] 00:54:28.900 --> 00:54:31.820 well, yes. So why don't. While [1681] 00:54:32.320 --> 00:54:34.340 I'm trying to remember exactly [1682] 00:54:35.060 --> 00:54:38.180 what I wanted to. To touch on [1683] 00:54:38.680 --> 00:54:40.540 with that, why don't you maybe [1684] 00:54:41.040 --> 00:54:41.780 explain a little bit, give a [1685] 00:54:42.280 --> 00:54:42.740 little background on what [1686] 00:54:43.240 --> 00:54:45.100 ancestral healing in is for [1687] 00:54:45.600 --> 00:54:46.740 everyone in the. Kandra. [1688] 00:54:46.900 --> 00:54:48.340 Kandraya. Is that how it's [1689] 00:54:48.840 --> 00:54:50.850 pronounced? Yeah. Yes. Healing [1690] 00:54:51.350 --> 00:54:53.370 session. Yeah. So you know, we [1691] 00:54:53.870 --> 00:54:54.730 are all connected, right? So I [1692] 00:54:55.230 --> 00:54:55.930 learned that with that silvery [1694] 00:54:58.430 --> 00:55:00.210 couldn't be more true. So when [1695] 00:55:00.710 --> 00:55:01.890 you work with ancestral healing, [1696] 00:55:02.290 --> 00:55:04.050 we all came from somewhere, [1697] 00:55:04.130 --> 00:55:05.210 right? We all, we all have [1698] 00:55:05.710 --> 00:55:06.890 parents, even if we don't know [1699] 00:55:07.390 --> 00:55:07.930 our parents, even if we were [1700] 00:55:08.430 --> 00:55:09.410 adopted. We came from somewhere, [1701] 00:55:09.730 --> 00:55:11.530 right? We came from that genetic [1702] 00:55:12.030 --> 00:55:14.170 code. So half of you have mom's [1703] 00:55:14.670 --> 00:55:17.170 DNA and half of it is dad's DNA, [1704] 00:55:17.670 --> 00:55:18.730 right? You can't. Dad's. That's [1705] 00:55:18.810 --> 00:55:21.090 how this world works. But then [1706] 00:55:21.590 --> 00:55:22.850 also, you know, how you were, [1707] 00:55:23.350 --> 00:55:24.210 how you were treated, how you [1708] 00:55:24.710 --> 00:55:26.410 grew up, what was instilled in [1710] 00:55:29.030 --> 00:55:30.730 say, to make things easy, let's [1711] 00:55:31.230 --> 00:55:31.730 say you were raised by your [1712] 00:55:32.230 --> 00:55:34.489 biological parents. Well, they [1713] 00:55:34.989 --> 00:55:36.530 were raised a certain way. They [1714] 00:55:37.030 --> 00:55:38.410 were raised by their parents or [1715] 00:55:38.910 --> 00:55:40.370 whoever raised them. The things [1716] 00:55:40.870 --> 00:55:42.770 that they learned, right. Is how [1717] 00:55:43.270 --> 00:55:44.610 their nervous system adapted to [1718] 00:55:45.110 --> 00:55:46.290 that. And we all, in the end, [1719] 00:55:46.790 --> 00:55:47.490 we all want to belong. We all [1720] 00:55:47.990 --> 00:55:49.030 want to be loved. Loved, but [1721] 00:55:49.110 --> 00:55:51.670 depending on what. What they [1722] 00:55:52.170 --> 00:55:52.710 were struggling with. So [1723] 00:55:53.210 --> 00:55:54.630 ancestral healing is the [1724] 00:55:55.130 --> 00:55:56.150 [1725] 00:55:56.230 --> 00:55:58.510 in the previous generation. So [1726] 00:55:59.010 --> 00:55:59.990 to make something very simple, [1727] 00:56:00.310 --> 00:56:02.430 let's say you're married to a [1728] 00:56:02.930 --> 00:56:03.630 partner. Let's say you're [1729] 00:56:04.130 --> 00:56:05.150 female, because this is just a [1730] 00:56:05.650 --> 00:56:07.270 common issue. And she, this [1731] 00:56:07.770 --> 00:56:08.710 female complains and she says, [1732] 00:56:08.950 --> 00:56:11.390 I don't understand it. I unload [1733] 00:56:11.890 --> 00:56:12.990 the dishwasher, you know, three [1734] 00:56:13.490 --> 00:56:14.510 times a day, and I do the [1735] 00:56:15.010 --> 00:56:16.300 laundry. And, you know, my [1736] 00:56:16.800 --> 00:56:17.700 partner is very helpful, but I [1737] 00:56:18.200 --> 00:56:18.900 always have to tell him, like, [1738] 00:56:19.400 --> 00:56:20.060 can you please take the garbage [1739] 00:56:20.560 --> 00:56:21.380 out? Can you please do this? [1741] 00:56:23.040 --> 00:56:24.100 she carries the mental load, [1742] 00:56:24.600 --> 00:56:26.420 right? Having to make sure [1743] 00:56:26.920 --> 00:56:27.460 everybody. She remembers [1744] 00:56:27.960 --> 00:56:28.540 everybody's birthday. And she [1745] 00:56:29.040 --> 00:56:30.740 does. She knows what needs to be [1746] 00:56:31.300 --> 00:56:32.420 brought home from the grocery [1747] 00:56:32.920 --> 00:56:33.820 store. She does all the [1748] 00:56:34.320 --> 00:56:36.700 planning, right? And then she's [1749] 00:56:37.200 --> 00:56:38.180 irritated about that. Right. [1750] 00:56:38.680 --> 00:56:39.460 Well, where. Where did that come [1751] 00:56:39.960 --> 00:56:41.900 from? She. Many times we say, [1752] 00:56:42.400 --> 00:56:44.460 how do I make my partner help [1753] 00:56:44.960 --> 00:56:46.900 more? Right. Yeah. That's all, [1754] 00:56:47.400 --> 00:56:47.860 you know, you guys start [1755] 00:56:48.360 --> 00:56:49.300 somewhere. But when we take a [1757] 00:56:51.720 --> 00:56:53.020 what was your mom like? When you [1758] 00:56:53.520 --> 00:56:54.060 start asking them, what was your [1759] 00:56:54.560 --> 00:56:55.380 mom like? My mom was a [1760] 00:56:55.880 --> 00:56:56.660 homemaker. She did everything. [1761] 00:56:56.820 --> 00:56:58.100 She did all the laundry, she did [1762] 00:56:58.600 --> 00:56:59.739 all the cooking. She. She was [1763] 00:57:00.239 --> 00:57:01.140 very subservient to my dad. [1764] 00:57:01.220 --> 00:57:03.540 Yes. And guess what? [1765] 00:57:04.040 --> 00:57:05.460 Subconsciously, even though you [1766] 00:57:05.960 --> 00:57:06.780 told yourself that you're not [1767] 00:57:07.280 --> 00:57:07.820 going to do the same thing as [1768] 00:57:08.320 --> 00:57:09.620 your mom did, you are. Because [1769] 00:57:09.700 --> 00:57:11.660 subconsciously. So we learn [1770] 00:57:12.160 --> 00:57:12.540 these things, you know, when [1771] 00:57:13.040 --> 00:57:13.940 [1772] 00:57:14.440 --> 00:57:15.860 see that and we want to blend [1773] 00:57:16.360 --> 00:57:17.340 in. We want to be like mom and [1774] 00:57:17.840 --> 00:57:18.980 dad. And it doesn't matter. [1775] 00:57:19.380 --> 00:57:21.380 Even if we hate that and says, [1776] 00:57:21.880 --> 00:57:22.980 I'm never going to be like you. [1777] 00:57:23.380 --> 00:57:24.860 And when we push something away, [1778] 00:57:25.360 --> 00:57:26.339 that also has a tendency to come [1779] 00:57:26.839 --> 00:57:27.900 back. So let's say this young [1780] 00:57:28.400 --> 00:57:30.180 woman, you know, her mom did [1781] 00:57:30.680 --> 00:57:31.700 everything at home, and she [1782] 00:57:32.200 --> 00:57:33.340 didn't like her dad because he [1783] 00:57:33.840 --> 00:57:35.020 was an alcoholic. And guess [1784] 00:57:35.520 --> 00:57:36.820 what? She married an alcoholic. [1785] 00:57:37.060 --> 00:57:38.420 And she does everything in the [1786] 00:57:38.920 --> 00:57:39.780 house. Yeah. She rejected dad. [1788] 00:57:41.360 --> 00:57:42.770 park, partner. And then we do [1789] 00:57:43.270 --> 00:57:43.810 all the dishes because that's [1790] 00:57:44.310 --> 00:57:46.050 what mom did. So we can see. So [1791] 00:57:46.550 --> 00:57:48.090 patterns repeat. And it doesn't [1792] 00:57:48.590 --> 00:57:49.810 matter sometimes if we reject it [1793] 00:57:49.970 --> 00:57:52.290 or we repeat it, but it has a [1794] 00:57:52.790 --> 00:57:53.730 tendency to come back. So that's [1795] 00:57:54.230 --> 00:57:55.370 like, in a nutshell, what [1796] 00:57:55.870 --> 00:57:57.130 ancestral healing is. We think [1797] 00:57:57.630 --> 00:57:58.570 we are independent, but we are [1798] 00:57:59.070 --> 00:58:00.010 not as independent as we think [1799] 00:58:00.510 --> 00:58:01.650 we are, because. And these [1800] 00:58:02.150 --> 00:58:03.530 things also transfer down on [1801] 00:58:04.030 --> 00:58:05.770 your DNA. So the traumatic [1802] 00:58:06.270 --> 00:58:07.170 events of your ancestors [1804] 00:58:08.690 --> 00:58:09.650 because they changed the [1805] 00:58:10.150 --> 00:58:10.970 epigenetics and the expression [1806] 00:58:11.470 --> 00:58:13.010 of that. And we know from [1807] 00:58:13.090 --> 00:58:15.170 research that we can see, [1808] 00:58:15.670 --> 00:58:16.090 they've done research on [1809] 00:58:16.590 --> 00:58:18.610 Holocaust survivors, that the [1810] 00:58:18.930 --> 00:58:20.370 certain genes are expressing in [1811] 00:58:20.870 --> 00:58:21.770 the. In the grandchildren that [1812] 00:58:22.270 --> 00:58:23.890 came from the traumatic events [1813] 00:58:24.390 --> 00:58:25.090 that those grandparents [1814] 00:58:25.590 --> 00:58:27.250 experienced. So it's a, you [1815] 00:58:27.750 --> 00:58:28.730 know, again, it's a. It's a big [1816] 00:58:29.230 --> 00:58:32.970 enchilada. Because it's not just [1817] 00:58:33.470 --> 00:58:34.170 one thing. It's not just the [1818] 00:58:34.670 --> 00:58:35.890 [1819] 00:58:36.390 --> 00:58:37.330 environment. It's. It's. It's a [1820] 00:58:37.830 --> 00:58:39.880 soup of all of it. And your own [1821] 00:58:40.380 --> 00:58:41.080 experiences. It could be what [1822] 00:58:41.580 --> 00:58:42.720 you experienced. Yeah, that's [1823] 00:58:43.220 --> 00:58:44.040 some of the extra spice. Right? [1824] 00:58:44.520 --> 00:58:46.760 It's exactly. It's. It's. It's a [1825] 00:58:47.260 --> 00:58:49.000 lot to take into account. And. [1826] 00:58:49.500 --> 00:58:50.440 But that is what. So it doesn't [1827] 00:58:50.940 --> 00:58:52.080 really matter what the problem [1828] 00:58:52.580 --> 00:58:53.200 is. You could have Lost [1829] 00:58:53.700 --> 00:58:54.960 connection with a family member [1830] 00:58:55.460 --> 00:58:56.520 or you're one of your children. [1831] 00:58:57.020 --> 00:58:57.840 I lost communication. That [1832] 00:58:58.340 --> 00:58:59.840 happens a lot. And then you do [1833] 00:59:00.340 --> 00:59:01.800 ancestral healing. But because [1835] 00:59:04.180 --> 00:59:05.920 when we do a healing, you know, [1836] 00:59:06.420 --> 00:59:07.120 people tell me the most [1837] 00:59:07.620 --> 00:59:09.170 miraculous things happen. You [1838] 00:59:09.670 --> 00:59:10.210 know, this one woman hadn't [1839] 00:59:10.710 --> 00:59:11.610 spoken to her mom in 10 years. [1840] 00:59:11.690 --> 00:59:13.690 And then, you know, six months [1841] 00:59:14.190 --> 00:59:15.370 goes by and she comes back, oh, [1842] 00:59:15.870 --> 00:59:16.570 I want to heal something else [1843] 00:59:17.070 --> 00:59:18.010 now, you know, And I said, how, [1844] 00:59:18.510 --> 00:59:18.770 you know, how did it go with [1845] 00:59:19.270 --> 00:59:19.850 your mom? And she goes, we're [1846] 00:59:20.350 --> 00:59:21.130 best friends now. We talk every [1847] 00:59:21.630 --> 00:59:22.410 day. Isn't that something? [1848] 00:59:22.910 --> 00:59:23.890 Yeah. And other people too, who [1849] 00:59:24.390 --> 00:59:25.330 have lost connection with our [1851] 00:59:27.670 --> 00:59:28.090 and they say, you won't believe [1852] 00:59:28.590 --> 00:59:29.810 who just called me that daughter [1853] 00:59:30.310 --> 00:59:31.410 who I haven't spoken to in four [1854] 00:59:31.910 --> 00:59:33.690 years. That's. So I'm going to [1855] 00:59:34.190 --> 00:59:35.090 say this is that spooky action [1856] 00:59:35.590 --> 00:59:36.390 at a distance Einstein said. [1857] 00:59:37.100 --> 00:59:38.940 Right. But it's more like magic [1858] 00:59:39.100 --> 00:59:40.020 because we are all [1859] 00:59:40.520 --> 00:59:41.300 interconnected. We don't know [1860] 00:59:41.800 --> 00:59:42.940 exactly how that works. Right. [1861] 00:59:43.100 --> 00:59:44.980 But there is something very [1862] 00:59:45.480 --> 00:59:47.340 divine that, you know, we're [1863] 00:59:47.840 --> 00:59:49.700 being guided through vision [1864] 00:59:50.200 --> 00:59:51.740 boards. Affirmation still stuck. [1865] 00:59:51.980 --> 00:59:53.420 [1866] 00:59:53.580 --> 00:59:55.100 It's hard to manifest from a [1867] 00:59:55.600 --> 00:59:56.500 body still stuck in survival [1868] 00:59:57.000 --> 00:59:58.340 mode. Sometimes the vision has [1869] 00:59:58.840 --> 00:59:59.460 to wait for the body to catch [1870] 00:59:59.960 --> 01:00:00.940 up. At the listening field [1871] 01:00:01.440 --> 01:00:02.670 retreat, August 20th, 21st to [1872] 01:00:03.170 --> 01:00:04.350 the 23rd at Eaglewood Resort and [1873] 01:00:04.850 --> 01:00:06.190 Spa, Julie Grant clears old [1874] 01:00:06.690 --> 01:00:07.950 family patterns. Kerry Muller [1875] 01:00:08.450 --> 01:00:09.230 uses sound to bring your body [1876] 01:00:09.730 --> 01:00:11.110 back online. And Jim Alstott [1877] 01:00:11.190 --> 01:00:12.590 shows you what it takes to turn [1878] 01:00:13.090 --> 01:00:13.910 intention into something you [1879] 01:00:14.410 --> 01:00:15.310 live. You don't need another [1880] 01:00:15.810 --> 01:00:16.630 notebook. You need to feel [1882] 01:00:18.210 --> 01:00:19.270 thechillcrew.org [1883] 01:00:19.910 --> 01:00:23.830 thelisteningretreat so then [1884] 01:00:23.910 --> 01:00:26.550 we went through the session, [1885] 01:00:27.270 --> 01:00:30.770 which I will say was [1886] 01:00:31.270 --> 01:00:33.570 really interesting on a number [1887] 01:00:34.070 --> 01:00:34.850 of levels. And it started out [1888] 01:00:35.350 --> 01:00:39.450 with the 13 question email [1889] 01:00:39.770 --> 01:00:42.090 that was asking about background [1890] 01:00:42.330 --> 01:00:45.250 and different situations or if [1891] 01:00:45.750 --> 01:00:46.330 there was something going on [1892] 01:00:46.810 --> 01:00:50.370 physically or emotionally or [1893] 01:00:50.870 --> 01:00:51.970 what have you. And you had a few [1894] 01:00:52.470 --> 01:00:53.090 different options as far as that [1895] 01:00:53.590 --> 01:00:54.770 was concerned. But then when we [1896] 01:00:55.270 --> 01:00:56.450 started, and I won't give [1898] 01:00:59.950 --> 01:01:03.170 think people would benefit from [1899] 01:01:04.210 --> 01:01:06.650 your sessions, but I will say [1900] 01:01:07.150 --> 01:01:09.370 that prior to the show, we were [1901] 01:01:09.870 --> 01:01:13.090 talking about what happened and [1902] 01:01:13.489 --> 01:01:15.290 one of the things Dr. Lahti said [1903] 01:01:15.790 --> 01:01:18.930 was, it'll start to open up. [1904] 01:01:19.250 --> 01:01:21.810 And we both use the term unravel [1905] 01:01:23.730 --> 01:01:27.740 as time goes on. And I [1906] 01:01:28.240 --> 01:01:31.180 start. I had an unraveling of [1907] 01:01:31.680 --> 01:01:34.260 sorts on Saturday evening, [1908] 01:01:35.860 --> 01:01:38.180 which went all the way into [1909] 01:01:39.460 --> 01:01:43.860 Sunday Evening at basically [1910] 01:01:43.940 --> 01:01:46.980 9:45 when I couldn't stay awake [1911] 01:01:47.480 --> 01:01:48.540 any longer. And I finally, my [1912] 01:01:49.040 --> 01:01:49.860 [1913] 01:01:51.620 --> 01:01:56.190 So. So what started was. [1914] 01:01:56.690 --> 01:01:59.550 And I had. I had explained to [1915] 01:01:59.950 --> 01:02:02.430 Dr. Lahti what was happening. [1916] 01:02:02.670 --> 01:02:04.510 And the best I can. [1917] 01:02:05.870 --> 01:02:07.190 The best words I can use to [1918] 01:02:07.690 --> 01:02:09.710 describe it were. And actually [1919] 01:02:10.270 --> 01:02:12.750 she mentioned it was almost like [1920] 01:02:13.250 --> 01:02:14.630 having a bit of a seizure, like [1921] 01:02:15.130 --> 01:02:18.830 a jolt. And it's that whole body [1922] 01:02:20.260 --> 01:02:22.780 jolt jump of when you're just [1923] 01:02:23.280 --> 01:02:24.980 about to fall asleep and it's [1924] 01:02:25.480 --> 01:02:26.740 boom. And then you wake up. [1925] 01:02:27.220 --> 01:02:29.900 Well, here's the thing. I wasn't [1926] 01:02:30.400 --> 01:02:33.020 asleep and this was going on. I [1927] 01:02:33.520 --> 01:02:36.020 was wide awake. My eyes were [1929] 01:02:38.960 --> 01:02:39.660 of the time, but most of the [1930] 01:02:40.160 --> 01:02:43.780 time. And these scenes or [1931] 01:02:44.280 --> 01:02:46.230 images or questions, dialogue [1932] 01:02:46.700 --> 01:02:50.060 was going on. And it was when. [1933] 01:02:51.260 --> 01:02:53.020 At the end of that. Which [1934] 01:02:53.520 --> 01:02:54.900 happened to be very quick, by [1935] 01:02:55.400 --> 01:02:58.580 the way. And it. What it. And [1936] 01:02:59.080 --> 01:03:01.420 you had mentioned this. It's [1937] 01:03:01.920 --> 01:03:04.220 almost like your body, your [1938] 01:03:04.720 --> 01:03:05.740 operating system within your [1939] 01:03:06.240 --> 01:03:08.860 body needing an upgrade. You're [1940] 01:03:09.360 --> 01:03:11.100 upgrading the system in order to [1941] 01:03:12.390 --> 01:03:14.990 accept or be able to interpret [1942] 01:03:15.490 --> 01:03:16.590 what's being said to you. [1943] 01:03:17.090 --> 01:03:18.110 Because otherwise it's just, as [1945] 01:03:20.290 --> 01:03:20.950 the typewriter, it's just a [1946] 01:03:21.450 --> 01:03:22.950 bunch of letters. Then it didn't [1947] 01:03:23.450 --> 01:03:26.790 mean anything. So at the end of [1948] 01:03:27.290 --> 01:03:28.350 each sequence, as I said, that [1949] 01:03:28.850 --> 01:03:29.790 was relatively quick. It could [1950] 01:03:30.290 --> 01:03:33.590 have been 60 seconds, 90 seconds [1951] 01:03:34.090 --> 01:03:36.030 somewhere in there, boom. It [1952] 01:03:36.530 --> 01:03:38.190 would be another jolt and then [1953] 01:03:38.690 --> 01:03:39.950 onto something else and onto [1954] 01:03:40.450 --> 01:03:41.780 something else. And if this was [1955] 01:03:42.280 --> 01:03:45.140 any. Any indication of each time [1956] 01:03:45.640 --> 01:03:46.140 there was a jolt, that was [1957] 01:03:46.640 --> 01:03:47.460 something I needed to work on. [1958] 01:03:47.860 --> 01:03:49.740 There was a lot of them, you [1959] 01:03:50.240 --> 01:03:53.180 [1960] 01:03:53.680 --> 01:03:55.700 the better part of the night [1961] 01:03:55.940 --> 01:03:59.060 until I finally decided, okay, [1962] 01:03:59.620 --> 01:04:01.860 that's enough, I'm getting up. [1963] 01:04:02.260 --> 01:04:05.740 And that was about 3:45 when [1964] 01:04:06.240 --> 01:04:09.790 that happened. And I'm sorry, [1965] 01:04:10.290 --> 01:04:10.990 I'm bouncing around, but it's [1966] 01:04:11.490 --> 01:04:12.870 how my brain works. And one of [1967] 01:04:13.370 --> 01:04:14.870 the things that. During the [1968] 01:04:15.190 --> 01:04:17.550 session, Dr. Lottie does a [1969] 01:04:18.050 --> 01:04:20.190 meditation. And during the [1970] 01:04:20.690 --> 01:04:23.030 meditation, I had said to her, [1971] 01:04:23.190 --> 01:04:24.670 she said, did anything [1972] 01:04:25.170 --> 01:04:26.990 interesting come up during the [1973] 01:04:27.490 --> 01:04:28.870 meditation? I said, well, yeah, [1974] 01:04:29.670 --> 01:04:31.910 for sure. And I said it was odd. [1976] 01:04:34.410 --> 01:04:35.910 the image of somebody with their [1977] 01:04:36.410 --> 01:04:38.380 hand on the wall, all bent over [1978] 01:04:38.880 --> 01:04:42.060 and vomiting. It's not a pretty [1979] 01:04:42.620 --> 01:04:44.900 mental image necessarily. And [1980] 01:04:45.400 --> 01:04:46.380 she said, oh, yes, that's your. [1981] 01:04:46.620 --> 01:04:50.380 Your. Your purging that. It was [1982] 01:04:50.880 --> 01:04:52.540 like, oh, yeah, that makes sense [1983] 01:04:53.340 --> 01:04:55.740 why I didn't put two and two [1984] 01:04:56.240 --> 01:04:57.660 together. Of course, it's not my [1985] 01:04:58.160 --> 01:04:59.140 program, it's your program. So [1986] 01:04:59.640 --> 01:05:01.740 it's why, you know. But. [1987] 01:05:03.510 --> 01:05:04.790 So that was one of the things. [1988] 01:05:05.290 --> 01:05:06.390 Other things that came up in [1989] 01:05:06.890 --> 01:05:09.590 there were. And I'll. [1990] 01:05:10.710 --> 01:05:15.630 They were energetic images or or [1992] 01:05:17.590 --> 01:05:19.630 forms. That's probably the best [1993] 01:05:20.130 --> 01:05:20.750 way to put it because it didn't [1994] 01:05:21.250 --> 01:05:23.510 take on the features of a face [1995] 01:05:24.010 --> 01:05:25.390 or anything. But they were [1996] 01:05:25.890 --> 01:05:27.830 moving and they would move in [1997] 01:05:28.720 --> 01:05:32.000 and I would. It was like some. [1998] 01:05:32.240 --> 01:05:33.560 It was like they were trying to [1999] 01:05:34.060 --> 01:05:35.440 tell me something or the energy [2000] 01:05:35.940 --> 01:05:37.000 was displaying something, [2001] 01:05:37.500 --> 01:05:38.720 sharing something, and it move [2002] 01:05:39.220 --> 01:05:40.560 out of the way and another one [2003] 01:05:41.060 --> 01:05:41.840 would come in and another one [2004] 01:05:42.340 --> 01:05:43.480 would come in. And I had [2005] 01:05:43.980 --> 01:05:46.240 mentioned to Dr. Ladi, I said, [2006] 01:05:46.740 --> 01:05:48.560 [2007] 01:05:49.060 --> 01:05:52.240 was an image of two puppies, [2008] 01:05:52.740 --> 01:05:54.640 black and white, that just kept [2009] 01:05:55.140 --> 01:05:57.080 melding one into the other. And [2010] 01:05:57.580 --> 01:05:58.880 it wasn't like anything gross. [2011] 01:05:59.120 --> 01:06:01.100 It was just, okay, here's white, [2012] 01:06:01.420 --> 01:06:03.260 now it's black, now it's white [2013] 01:06:03.340 --> 01:06:05.420 on top of each other, just [2014] 01:06:05.920 --> 01:06:07.700 coming in and out like a yin and [2015] 01:06:08.200 --> 01:06:10.700 yang scenario is what she had [2016] 01:06:11.200 --> 01:06:14.620 said. So that was, that was my [2017] 01:06:14.700 --> 01:06:16.820 experience. I'm sure many others [2018] 01:06:17.320 --> 01:06:19.500 have, you know, interesting [2019] 01:06:20.000 --> 01:06:23.180 experiences as well. But the [2020] 01:06:23.680 --> 01:06:25.340 long and short of the [2021] 01:06:28.150 --> 01:06:29.510 experiences throughout the night [2023] 01:06:33.090 --> 01:06:35.190 anything else. It wasn't like, [2024] 01:06:35.350 --> 01:06:37.110 why is this person doing this to [2025] 01:06:37.610 --> 01:06:39.110 me? It was nothing like that. [2026] 01:06:40.390 --> 01:06:44.630 It was more internal. And like, [2027] 01:06:45.130 --> 01:06:46.870 one of the things that came up [2028] 01:06:47.830 --> 01:06:53.110 was when did [2029] 01:06:53.910 --> 01:06:58.220 this sort of behavior or, [2030] 01:06:58.720 --> 01:07:02.140 you know, accepting the, the [2031] 01:07:02.220 --> 01:07:05.100 environment that is, I would [2032] 01:07:05.600 --> 01:07:07.380 say, relatively negative. When [2033] 01:07:07.880 --> 01:07:10.020 did that become acceptable to [2034] 01:07:10.520 --> 01:07:13.140 you? Why is that acceptable to [2035] 01:07:13.640 --> 01:07:15.460 you? Do you know what that's [2036] 01:07:15.960 --> 01:07:20.660 doing to you? And it [2037] 01:07:21.160 --> 01:07:23.770 was because the questions like [2039] 01:07:26.750 --> 01:07:28.210 even have an opportunity to [2040] 01:07:28.930 --> 01:07:32.850 answer them. It was boom, [2041] 01:07:33.650 --> 01:07:35.930 boom. And like I said, with the [2042] 01:07:36.430 --> 01:07:38.290 jolts. But you had said [2043] 01:07:38.610 --> 01:07:40.450 something about Kundalini [2044] 01:07:40.950 --> 01:07:43.650 awakening. Actually, [2045] 01:07:44.770 --> 01:07:46.010 why don't I, I'm going to turn [2046] 01:07:46.510 --> 01:07:47.730 it over to you because this [2047] 01:07:48.050 --> 01:07:49.330 interpretation of these things [2048] 01:07:49.830 --> 01:07:51.690 is obviously where you're, [2049] 01:07:52.250 --> 01:07:53.770 you're going to be the expert [2050] 01:07:53.930 --> 01:07:55.490 instead of me going, I wonder [2051] 01:07:55.990 --> 01:07:59.810 why that happened. So, yeah, [2052] 01:08:00.310 --> 01:08:01.330 I've had many experiences like [2053] 01:08:01.830 --> 01:08:02.690 [2054] 01:08:03.190 --> 01:08:05.410 body jolts and it always [2055] 01:08:05.910 --> 01:08:08.530 coincides with some kind of a [2056] 01:08:09.030 --> 01:08:11.410 spiritual awakening. So I've [2057] 01:08:11.910 --> 01:08:12.690 come to learn that it's, you [2058] 01:08:13.190 --> 01:08:14.210 know, part of like a Kundalini [2059] 01:08:14.710 --> 01:08:16.890 awakening. And I used to get a [2060] 01:08:17.390 --> 01:08:18.610 lot of energy running up my [2061] 01:08:19.110 --> 01:08:20.330 spine ever since I had my first [2062] 01:08:20.830 --> 01:08:22.099 near death experience. But, but [2063] 01:08:22.259 --> 01:08:23.819 as time went on, I would also [2064] 01:08:24.319 --> 01:08:26.259 experience these random jolts, [2065] 01:08:26.499 --> 01:08:27.659 right? And it would be, you [2066] 01:08:28.159 --> 01:08:29.459 know, several, you know, one [2067] 01:08:29.959 --> 01:08:32.459 minute just going on to the [2068] 01:08:32.959 --> 01:08:34.739 point when I even considered [2070] 01:08:36.599 --> 01:08:37.699 like, but this is not a seizure, [2071] 01:08:38.499 --> 01:08:40.579 just a body jolting. But it [2072] 01:08:41.079 --> 01:08:43.419 would always coincide with, you [2073] 01:08:43.919 --> 01:08:44.739 know, seeing More information, [2074] 01:08:45.299 --> 01:08:46.379 having access to more [2075] 01:08:46.879 --> 01:08:47.299 information from the spirit [2076] 01:08:47.799 --> 01:08:49.839 world, becoming more aware in, [2077] 01:08:49.990 --> 01:08:52.790 in one way or another. And so [2078] 01:08:52.950 --> 01:08:54.590 now I just call it the computer [2079] 01:08:55.090 --> 01:08:56.030 upgrades because literally it's [2080] 01:08:56.530 --> 01:08:57.350 like you're getting an upgrade. [2081] 01:08:57.850 --> 01:08:59.430 You're becoming more aware, [2082] 01:08:59.750 --> 01:09:01.270 you're changing your, your, the [2083] 01:09:01.770 --> 01:09:02.910 way you perceive things. You [2084] 01:09:03.410 --> 01:09:04.950 having an easier time access the [2086] 01:09:07.810 --> 01:09:08.990 there's something to that. And [2087] 01:09:09.490 --> 01:09:10.830 I'm going to say that the spirit [2088] 01:09:11.330 --> 01:09:12.430 world is, you know, there are [2089] 01:09:12.930 --> 01:09:14.830 people that go to like Kundalini [2090] 01:09:15.330 --> 01:09:17.719 yoga, right? I worked with many [2091] 01:09:18.219 --> 01:09:19.399 of those people. And then they [2092] 01:09:19.899 --> 01:09:21.119 get sick because they're forcing [2093] 01:09:21.619 --> 01:09:22.639 it, they're pushing it, right? [2094] 01:09:23.039 --> 01:09:24.559 They're pushing their body into [2095] 01:09:25.039 --> 01:09:26.359 something that the body's not [2096] 01:09:26.859 --> 01:09:28.399 ready for yet. It's better to. [2097] 01:09:28.899 --> 01:09:30.079 I'm going to say if you want to [2098] 01:09:30.579 --> 01:09:31.439 have a Kundalini awakening, [2099] 01:09:31.679 --> 01:09:33.919 just meditate. Because if you're [2100] 01:09:34.419 --> 01:09:35.999 [2101] 01:09:36.499 --> 01:09:37.239 then you're just going to [2102] 01:09:37.739 --> 01:09:39.519 experience them. Do you have to [2103] 01:09:40.019 --> 01:09:40.759 have jolts to have a Kundalini [2104] 01:09:41.259 --> 01:09:42.440 awakening? No, of course not. [2105] 01:09:42.940 --> 01:09:44.360 It's all different ways of [2106] 01:09:44.860 --> 01:09:45.600 having these experiences, [2107] 01:09:45.840 --> 01:09:47.120 right? I'm just going to say, [2108] 01:09:47.360 --> 01:09:49.240 you know, I had the jolts, you [2109] 01:09:49.740 --> 01:09:50.640 had the jolts. We're on a very [2110] 01:09:51.140 --> 01:09:51.920 specific kind of spiritual [2111] 01:09:52.420 --> 01:09:54.160 journey in this life. And other [2112] 01:09:54.660 --> 01:09:55.680 people may just have energy [2113] 01:09:56.180 --> 01:09:56.800 running up their spine. I had [2114] 01:09:57.300 --> 01:09:58.880 that for years. I had that for [2115] 01:09:59.120 --> 01:10:02.240 probably 25 years before I had [2117] 01:10:04.660 --> 01:10:05.560 time I had a lot of, you know, [2118] 01:10:06.060 --> 01:10:09.720 just random spinal energy from [2119] 01:10:10.220 --> 01:10:11.000 the base of my spine and up my [2120] 01:10:11.500 --> 01:10:12.950 spine. So, you know, everybody [2121] 01:10:13.180 --> 01:10:14.620 is on their own journey. So I'm [2122] 01:10:15.120 --> 01:10:16.460 going to say, don't try and [2123] 01:10:16.960 --> 01:10:18.140 force something that, because [2124] 01:10:18.640 --> 01:10:19.900 somebody else had that, you [2125] 01:10:20.400 --> 01:10:21.660 know, and you know, I had near [2126] 01:10:22.160 --> 01:10:23.340 death experiences. That was just [2127] 01:10:23.840 --> 01:10:24.740 part of my journey. They're in [2128] 01:10:25.240 --> 01:10:26.300 my astrological chart. I know [2129] 01:10:26.800 --> 01:10:28.220 that was I incarnated to have [2130] 01:10:28.720 --> 01:10:29.580 those experiences. They serve [2131] 01:10:30.080 --> 01:10:31.900 this purpose. You can have a [2133] 01:10:34.320 --> 01:10:37.420 experience, an S T, E that is [2134] 01:10:37.920 --> 01:10:38.980 serves the same purpose as the [2135] 01:10:39.480 --> 01:10:41.400 nd. And I'm like, I wish [2136] 01:10:41.900 --> 01:10:42.640 sometimes without having to [2137] 01:10:43.140 --> 01:10:46.080 flatline, I wish I had an nde. [2138] 01:10:46.580 --> 01:10:47.360 And I'm thinking to myself, no, [2139] 01:10:47.860 --> 01:10:49.360 you don't. Because a near death [2140] 01:10:49.860 --> 01:10:50.880 experience means there was also [2141] 01:10:51.380 --> 01:10:52.160 trauma involved in that. And [2142] 01:10:52.660 --> 01:10:53.040 you're gonna have to resolve [2143] 01:10:53.540 --> 01:10:55.040 that trauma and the PTSD that [2144] 01:10:55.540 --> 01:10:56.600 comes with having that near [2145] 01:10:57.100 --> 01:10:58.360 death experience. But if you [2146] 01:10:58.860 --> 01:10:59.280 have a spiritually [2147] 01:10:59.780 --> 01:11:00.960 [2148] 01:11:01.460 --> 01:11:02.280 will have the exact same effect [2149] 01:11:02.780 --> 01:11:04.120 on you as a near death [2150] 01:11:04.620 --> 01:11:05.560 experience, right? So I'm saying [2151] 01:11:06.060 --> 01:11:06.680 you can be spiritually [2152] 01:11:07.180 --> 01:11:08.140 transformed form without the [2153] 01:11:08.640 --> 01:11:09.940 PTSD and the Trauma involved. [2154] 01:11:10.340 --> 01:11:12.300 So. And how do we, how do we [2155] 01:11:12.800 --> 01:11:14.580 become more aware? You meditate. [2156] 01:11:15.300 --> 01:11:16.740 And it's when we find that [2157] 01:11:17.240 --> 01:11:19.020 stillness within that we can now [2158] 01:11:19.520 --> 01:11:23.140 hear what's beyond. So one of [2159] 01:11:23.640 --> 01:11:26.180 the things that came up to, we [2160] 01:11:26.680 --> 01:11:28.060 talked about NDEs, you had [2161] 01:11:28.560 --> 01:11:30.300 mentioned that there's, you [2162] 01:11:30.800 --> 01:11:31.460 know, that white light, the [2164] 01:11:34.180 --> 01:11:35.080 that. They're very similar or [2165] 01:11:35.240 --> 01:11:37.000 the going through this tunnel of [2166] 01:11:37.500 --> 01:11:40.240 light. I know that there's more [2167] 01:11:40.740 --> 01:11:41.920 and more studies coming up right [2168] 01:11:42.420 --> 01:11:43.960 now about DMT and the release [2169] 01:11:44.040 --> 01:11:47.440 from the pineal gland. What are [2170] 01:11:47.940 --> 01:11:49.200 your thoughts about that? And I [2171] 01:11:49.700 --> 01:11:50.680 just opened up a whole new can [2172] 01:11:51.180 --> 01:11:52.960 of worms with that. And then you [2173] 01:11:53.460 --> 01:11:54.720 could go from DMT that's [2174] 01:11:55.220 --> 01:11:57.320 naturally manufactured in the [2175] 01:11:57.820 --> 01:12:01.170 pineal to the DMT that you can [2176] 01:12:01.330 --> 01:12:05.250 do from like a plant event [2177] 01:12:05.330 --> 01:12:07.650 or what have you. Yeah. I'm [2178] 01:12:08.150 --> 01:12:09.250 gonna say again, it's different [2180] 01:12:12.030 --> 01:12:13.450 Eben Alexander, the neurosurgeon [2181] 01:12:13.950 --> 01:12:16.130 who was in a coma. Yes, Famous, [2182] 01:12:16.630 --> 01:12:18.770 right. Because he, he was a [2183] 01:12:19.270 --> 01:12:20.490 neurosurgeon and he had this [2184] 01:12:20.990 --> 01:12:21.930 whole near death experience even [2185] 01:12:22.430 --> 01:12:22.890 though there was no brain [2186] 01:12:23.390 --> 01:12:25.650 activity. And so, and so he's [2187] 01:12:26.150 --> 01:12:27.560 been, I know he was part of, of [2188] 01:12:28.600 --> 01:12:29.800 something. I want to say it [2189] 01:12:30.300 --> 01:12:31.080 could have been a movie where he [2190] 01:12:31.580 --> 01:12:32.200 spoke about, where he was like [2191] 01:12:32.700 --> 01:12:35.120 interviewed, but I know that he [2192] 01:12:35.620 --> 01:12:36.640 was part of something. There was [2193] 01:12:37.140 --> 01:12:39.680 a documentary with DMT and he [2194] 01:12:40.180 --> 01:12:42.560 [2195] 01:12:43.060 --> 01:12:45.320 looking through a keyhole versus [2196] 01:12:45.800 --> 01:12:47.120 going through the keyhole and [2197] 01:12:47.620 --> 01:12:48.400 seeing the whole enchilada on [2198] 01:12:48.900 --> 01:12:50.240 the other side. So it's, it's [2199] 01:12:50.740 --> 01:12:51.520 like you get, I'm gonna say the [2200] 01:12:52.020 --> 01:12:53.200 DMT probably gives people a [2201] 01:12:53.700 --> 01:12:56.310 glimpse of, glimpse into that or [2202] 01:12:56.810 --> 01:12:57.990 people who do, you know, ayaska [2203] 01:12:58.490 --> 01:12:59.230 and all these. Yes, yes, yes. [2204] 01:12:59.730 --> 01:13:01.390 Different things that they get [2205] 01:13:01.890 --> 01:13:03.910 like a glimpse of something on [2206] 01:13:04.410 --> 01:13:06.630 the other side. But again, you [2207] 01:13:07.130 --> 01:13:08.270 know, how do I know? I can't, [2208] 01:13:08.770 --> 01:13:09.470 you know, how do we compare [2209] 01:13:09.970 --> 01:13:11.430 that? Are there people that had [2211] 01:13:13.610 --> 01:13:14.710 ayahuasca or something? I'm sure [2212] 01:13:15.210 --> 01:13:16.630 there are. Yeah. Right. And, [2213] 01:13:17.130 --> 01:13:18.030 and that's again, that's what's [2214] 01:13:18.530 --> 01:13:19.220 so difficult because I think, [2215] 01:13:19.370 --> 01:13:21.930 think part of it is what we're [2216] 01:13:22.430 --> 01:13:23.450 here to experience. We all have [2217] 01:13:23.950 --> 01:13:24.890 some kind of an agenda. We all [2218] 01:13:25.050 --> 01:13:27.170 have the free will. Right. It's [2219] 01:13:27.670 --> 01:13:29.850 not a clear, you know, clear cut [2220] 01:13:30.170 --> 01:13:32.530 system. It's, it's, everything [2221] 01:13:33.030 --> 01:13:34.170 is integrated into each other. [2222] 01:13:34.410 --> 01:13:35.770 You know, part of it is you [2223] 01:13:36.270 --> 01:13:36.890 incarnated to have this [2224] 01:13:37.390 --> 01:13:38.410 experience. This is what you [2225] 01:13:38.910 --> 01:13:39.410 signed up for in your [2227] 01:13:41.790 --> 01:13:43.210 have free will and you can learn [2228] 01:13:43.710 --> 01:13:44.570 your lesson by taking one of [2229] 01:13:45.070 --> 01:13:46.380 these Five Right. Routes, and [2230] 01:13:46.880 --> 01:13:47.380 you're going to end up at the [2231] 01:13:47.880 --> 01:13:48.420 same. You know, it's like Tay [2232] 01:13:48.920 --> 01:13:50.300 saying, I want to get to point B [2233] 01:13:50.800 --> 01:13:51.820 in the city. Well, there's many [2234] 01:13:52.320 --> 01:13:52.620 different options. You could [2235] 01:13:53.120 --> 01:13:54.180 take the subway, bus. You could [2236] 01:13:54.680 --> 01:13:55.540 drive. There's five different [2237] 01:13:56.040 --> 01:13:58.820 routes. Yeah. I mean, but you're [2238] 01:13:59.320 --> 01:14:00.460 still gonna get to that building [2239] 01:14:00.940 --> 01:14:02.820 where you're going. But I feel [2240] 01:14:03.320 --> 01:14:04.460 like life is. Is similar like [2241] 01:14:04.960 --> 01:14:07.340 [2242] 01:14:07.580 --> 01:14:08.980 we're also all going to get to [2243] 01:14:09.480 --> 01:14:11.060 that building. Right. But [2244] 01:14:11.560 --> 01:14:12.220 there's different routes to get [2245] 01:14:12.410 --> 01:14:13.530 there, and there's different [2246] 01:14:13.610 --> 01:14:15.570 experiences along the way. And [2247] 01:14:16.070 --> 01:14:17.210 so you have five options. You [2248] 01:14:17.710 --> 01:14:18.530 can choose experience A, [2249] 01:14:19.030 --> 01:14:20.330 experience B, experience C. [2250] 01:14:20.570 --> 01:14:22.010 Okay, I'm going to take C. [2251] 01:14:22.650 --> 01:14:23.690 That. That means you're going to [2252] 01:14:24.190 --> 01:14:26.330 get a flat tire and tow your [2253] 01:14:26.830 --> 01:14:28.730 car, and something else is going [2254] 01:14:29.230 --> 01:14:30.610 to happen. Right? Right. You [2255] 01:14:31.110 --> 01:14:31.930 took the route B, but you're [2256] 01:14:32.430 --> 01:14:32.810 still going to end up in the [2258] 01:14:35.670 --> 01:14:36.530 like different routes to get to [2259] 01:14:37.030 --> 01:14:39.640 the same endpoint. So. And I. I [2260] 01:14:40.140 --> 01:14:42.240 love that I had a. A debate [2261] 01:14:42.960 --> 01:14:45.360 about something similar with [2262] 01:14:45.860 --> 01:14:50.080 someone a while ago, and they [2263] 01:14:50.580 --> 01:14:53.400 were telling someone, no, you [2264] 01:14:53.900 --> 01:14:54.800 know, you're wrong. It's this [2265] 01:14:55.300 --> 01:14:56.440 way. And I said, well, hold on a [2266] 01:14:56.940 --> 01:15:00.480 second. It seems to me that [2267] 01:15:00.880 --> 01:15:02.480 there are a number of ways to [2268] 01:15:02.720 --> 01:15:05.260 accomplish a goal, right? Yeah. [2269] 01:15:05.760 --> 01:15:06.900 So why is there only one right [2270] 01:15:07.400 --> 01:15:09.820 way? There isn't. The answer is. [2271] 01:15:10.320 --> 01:15:12.180 There isn't. Exactly. It's that [2272] 01:15:12.680 --> 01:15:14.820 person's way of doing it, which [2274] 01:15:16.600 --> 01:15:18.420 totally fine, by the way. But [2275] 01:15:18.920 --> 01:15:20.180 that doesn't mean that you [2276] 01:15:20.680 --> 01:15:22.620 dismiss what that person just [2277] 01:15:23.120 --> 01:15:26.660 said or believes, because at [2278] 01:15:27.160 --> 01:15:28.540 this very moment, that's what [2279] 01:15:29.040 --> 01:15:29.580 they believe. That doesn't mean [2280] 01:15:30.080 --> 01:15:31.550 it won't change. Change. And [2281] 01:15:32.050 --> 01:15:32.670 maybe they will come around to [2282] 01:15:33.170 --> 01:15:33.950 your way of thinking, but you [2283] 01:15:34.450 --> 01:15:35.150 have to leave the door open in [2284] 01:15:35.650 --> 01:15:39.030 order to recognize that there [2285] 01:15:39.530 --> 01:15:41.910 are other ways of doing things. [2286] 01:15:41.990 --> 01:15:45.070 So what I'd like to do is do you [2287] 01:15:45.570 --> 01:15:46.150 have your musical question, [2288] 01:15:46.229 --> 01:15:47.870 [2289] 01:15:48.370 --> 01:15:49.750 chance? So what we're going to [2290] 01:15:50.250 --> 01:15:51.110 do for this one is we're going [2291] 01:15:51.610 --> 01:15:53.390 to do rapid fire on the [2292] 01:15:53.890 --> 01:15:55.070 questions. Okay. Because I want [2293] 01:15:55.570 --> 01:15:56.510 to get your playlist, because I [2294] 01:15:57.010 --> 01:15:58.340 wasn't kidding. I know you're [2295] 01:15:58.840 --> 01:15:59.740 busy, but we're going to do [2296] 01:16:00.240 --> 01:16:02.380 another show relatively quickly [2297] 01:16:03.100 --> 01:16:05.780 because I've got so much I want [2298] 01:16:06.280 --> 01:16:07.580 to talk about, and I think [2299] 01:16:08.080 --> 01:16:09.220 people. People would absolutely [2300] 01:16:09.720 --> 01:16:11.220 love to. To know this. So here [2301] 01:16:11.720 --> 01:16:12.380 we go with the questions. [2302] 01:16:12.540 --> 01:16:14.380 Number one, what was the first [2303] 01:16:14.880 --> 01:16:15.860 song that you fell in love with [2305] 01:16:19.580 --> 01:16:21.020 the Banana Boat song by [2306] 01:16:21.520 --> 01:16:23.210 Haribellafonte. Love it. It, [2307] 01:16:23.530 --> 01:16:26.250 Love it. I used to play that, [2308] 01:16:26.410 --> 01:16:28.050 like, over and over. I'm sure I [2309] 01:16:28.550 --> 01:16:30.050 drove my parents crazy. Love [2310] 01:16:30.550 --> 01:16:32.010 that. Yeah. Okay, what about. [2311] 01:16:32.570 --> 01:16:34.210 I'm not sure that this happened [2312] 01:16:34.710 --> 01:16:36.610 or not, but did your family have [2313] 01:16:37.110 --> 01:16:38.330 a song that everyone would sing [2314] 01:16:38.410 --> 01:16:40.890 on road trips or. Okay. [2315] 01:16:41.850 --> 01:16:43.690 I came from a musical family and [2316] 01:16:44.190 --> 01:16:45.610 my mom would often, often sing, [2317] 01:16:46.890 --> 01:16:48.290 and it was always the Sound of [2318] 01:16:48.790 --> 01:16:50.610 Music. So. Yeah, because that [2319] 01:16:51.110 --> 01:16:51.680 came out when I was a little kid [2321] 01:16:55.010 --> 01:16:56.030 years old when that movie came [2322] 01:16:56.530 --> 01:16:58.470 out. But I couldn't see over the [2323] 01:16:58.970 --> 01:16:59.510 people in the movie theater, [2324] 01:16:59.750 --> 01:17:01.430 and I had to sit on my mom's [2325] 01:17:01.670 --> 01:17:03.710 huge purse because back then in [2326] 01:17:04.210 --> 01:17:05.790 the 60s, they had those huge. [2327] 01:17:06.290 --> 01:17:08.310 It was like a bag. Yes. Yeah. [2328] 01:17:08.390 --> 01:17:10.110 If you like my bag, I can pick [2329] 01:17:10.610 --> 01:17:12.470 it up. Right. To see the movie. [2330] 01:17:12.870 --> 01:17:14.870 And. Yeah, so it was. Dore me [2331] 01:17:15.670 --> 01:17:17.510 some music by. With Julie [2332] 01:17:18.010 --> 01:17:19.390 Andrew. Boundaries. Wonderful. [2333] 01:17:20.430 --> 01:17:22.390 How about this one? What was [2334] 01:17:22.890 --> 01:17:23.990 your favorite song that you and [2335] 01:17:24.490 --> 01:17:25.470 [2336] 01:17:25.970 --> 01:17:28.150 you were in school? Okay, so I [2337] 01:17:28.650 --> 01:17:29.790 grew up during the ABBA [2338] 01:17:30.290 --> 01:17:31.390 movement. I also grew up in [2339] 01:17:31.890 --> 01:17:34.870 Sweden. And Benny Anderson, [2340] 01:17:35.370 --> 01:17:36.510 actually, Benny Anderson went to [2341] 01:17:37.010 --> 01:17:38.190 my elementary school. Get out. [2342] 01:17:38.350 --> 01:17:40.390 Yeah. But he was. He was out of [2343] 01:17:40.890 --> 01:17:41.470 that school by the time I got [2344] 01:17:41.970 --> 01:17:42.430 there because he was born [2345] 01:17:43.150 --> 01:17:44.710 probably like 12 years before I [2346] 01:17:45.210 --> 01:17:47.820 was born. Right. So. But he went [2347] 01:17:48.320 --> 01:17:49.500 to. He went to my school. So [2348] 01:17:49.980 --> 01:17:51.820 every, you know, it was abba. [2349] 01:17:52.140 --> 01:17:53.860 Dancing Queen by abba. I was. [2350] 01:17:54.360 --> 01:17:55.380 And that song came out when we [2352] 01:17:58.140 --> 01:18:00.100 Now, what about when you went to [2353] 01:18:00.600 --> 01:18:02.140 university? Did your musical [2354] 01:18:02.640 --> 01:18:05.500 taste change? Oh, yes. [2355] 01:18:05.660 --> 01:18:08.140 So I'm going to say college. [2356] 01:18:10.380 --> 01:18:12.220 So that was, you know, like [2357] 01:18:12.700 --> 01:18:14.940 1977. So I graduated high school [2358] 01:18:15.440 --> 01:18:19.150 1977. And that fall I [2359] 01:18:19.650 --> 01:18:21.910 went to a junior college in [2360] 01:18:22.410 --> 01:18:24.910 Boston. And just to see. [2361] 01:18:25.410 --> 01:18:26.070 Because our relate. My [2362] 01:18:26.570 --> 01:18:27.150 relationship with my American [2363] 01:18:27.650 --> 01:18:28.510 boyfriend was getting serious [2364] 01:18:29.010 --> 01:18:30.510 and kind of wanted to see, do I [2365] 01:18:31.010 --> 01:18:31.270 want to live in the United [2366] 01:18:31.770 --> 01:18:32.310 States? You know, I had already [2368] 01:18:35.450 --> 01:18:37.910 few years, and yeah, so it was [2369] 01:18:38.410 --> 01:18:40.710 very much more raucous. The song [2370] 01:18:41.210 --> 01:18:43.310 that came out was We Will Rock [2371] 01:18:43.810 --> 01:18:45.070 youk with Queen. Queen. Yeah. [2372] 01:18:45.570 --> 01:18:47.110 And you are the Champion song [2373] 01:18:47.610 --> 01:18:48.790 came out. Yes. At the same time. [2374] 01:18:49.290 --> 01:18:50.140 You are the champion. Right. [2375] 01:18:50.640 --> 01:18:51.300 And that's what we were all [2376] 01:18:51.800 --> 01:18:52.620 singing all the time because it [2377] 01:18:53.120 --> 01:18:53.900 was always playing on the radio. [2378] 01:18:54.400 --> 01:18:55.260 It was a big, big hit. Right. [2379] 01:18:55.760 --> 01:18:57.500 And it still is fantastic. [2380] 01:18:58.000 --> 01:18:59.540 Yeah, that's a. So far you've [2381] 01:19:00.040 --> 01:19:01.260 got all originals. Nobody else [2382] 01:19:01.760 --> 01:19:03.860 [2383] 01:19:04.360 --> 01:19:05.100 guilty pleasure song? Do you [2384] 01:19:05.600 --> 01:19:07.740 have a guilty pleasure song? A [2385] 01:19:08.240 --> 01:19:10.940 guilty pleasure song that, [2386] 01:19:11.020 --> 01:19:12.780 like. You mean now? Not. Just. [2387] 01:19:13.280 --> 01:19:14.700 Not. Not The Positive Juices [2388] 01:19:15.200 --> 01:19:16.240 one. No. Well, you can do [2389] 01:19:16.740 --> 01:19:17.680 Positive juices, and we'll hit [2390] 01:19:18.180 --> 01:19:19.400 the. All right. Positive Juices. [2391] 01:19:19.560 --> 01:19:20.840 Positive Juices song. Okay. [2392] 01:19:21.340 --> 01:19:21.640 You're gonna laugh at this [2393] 01:19:22.140 --> 01:19:22.840 because they're all musicals. [2394] 01:19:23.800 --> 01:19:26.720 So the first one is the Circle [2395] 01:19:27.220 --> 01:19:29.000 of Life by Lion King. Love it. [2396] 01:19:29.500 --> 01:19:31.240 And so, literally, I. I don't [2397] 01:19:31.740 --> 01:19:32.800 think one day goes by without me [2399] 01:19:34.340 --> 01:19:36.840 the house. I love that. I don't [2400] 01:19:37.340 --> 01:19:37.960 know. It just gets me going. [2401] 01:19:38.440 --> 01:19:41.490 So, Circle of life. Do you hear [2402] 01:19:41.990 --> 01:19:43.690 the people sing? Oh, Les Mis. [2403] 01:19:44.190 --> 01:19:47.050 Yep. Yeah. Le Mis. And then the [2404] 01:19:47.550 --> 01:19:49.650 Phantom of the Opera. Oh, [2405] 01:19:49.890 --> 01:19:51.410 Can't. Can't say. You know. And [2406] 01:19:51.910 --> 01:19:52.730 I mean, I can just go on Rag [2407] 01:19:53.230 --> 01:19:55.410 Time. So I'm gonna say all [2408] 01:19:55.910 --> 01:19:57.930 these, you know, all the. They [2409] 01:19:58.430 --> 01:19:59.170 have so much oomph in them. [2410] 01:19:59.570 --> 01:20:01.410 It's just. You hear those songs [2411] 01:20:01.910 --> 01:20:02.570 and it's just like, you're ready [2412] 01:20:03.070 --> 01:20:03.970 to run a marathon. I mean. [2413] 01:20:04.050 --> 01:20:07.090 Yeah. No, that's fantastic. [2415] 01:20:12.310 --> 01:20:13.730 father, but my mom, my [2416] 01:20:14.230 --> 01:20:15.810 grandfather. Musical, very [2417] 01:20:16.310 --> 01:20:17.210 creative and very good [2418] 01:20:17.710 --> 01:20:20.530 musicians, actually. How about [2419] 01:20:21.030 --> 01:20:23.210 we go to. What's a song that you [2420] 01:20:23.710 --> 01:20:25.130 believe could change the way [2421] 01:20:25.630 --> 01:20:27.090 people think about the, the [2422] 01:20:27.590 --> 01:20:28.370 world. Think or feel about the [2423] 01:20:28.870 --> 01:20:30.290 world in a positive way if they [2424] 01:20:30.790 --> 01:20:31.330 just listen to the song's [2425] 01:20:31.830 --> 01:20:34.010 lyrics? I'm going to say Imagine [2426] 01:20:34.250 --> 01:20:36.170 by John Lennon. Okay. Because [2427] 01:20:36.670 --> 01:20:38.810 it's. We're all one. No borders. [2428] 01:20:39.310 --> 01:20:40.600 We all, We're. We're all people [2429] 01:20:41.100 --> 01:20:43.000 [2430] 01:20:43.160 --> 01:20:44.840 That's a good one. That's a [2431] 01:20:45.340 --> 01:20:46.720 really good one. This is my [2432] 01:20:47.220 --> 01:20:48.400 favorite one. And it will be the [2433] 01:20:48.900 --> 01:20:50.040 last one for us. Okay. We, we [2434] 01:20:50.540 --> 01:20:51.400 skip one. We skipped the guilty [2435] 01:20:51.900 --> 01:20:53.280 pleasure. I know we did. And [2436] 01:20:53.780 --> 01:20:54.280 we're going to do that because [2437] 01:20:54.780 --> 01:20:57.120 when we do our next one, I want [2438] 01:20:57.620 --> 01:20:58.960 to have some other questions for [2439] 01:20:59.460 --> 01:21:01.000 it. I, I, I purposefully went by [2440] 01:21:01.640 --> 01:21:05.360 a couple of them. But sometimes [2441] 01:21:05.860 --> 01:21:06.960 there are songs that you hear [2442] 01:21:07.460 --> 01:21:08.480 that ring so true that they can [2443] 01:21:08.980 --> 01:21:09.940 stop you in your track. The [2444] 01:21:10.440 --> 01:21:11.500 song's lyrics sound like they [2446] 01:21:13.280 --> 01:21:14.820 for you or by you. What's that [2447] 01:21:15.320 --> 01:21:17.620 song? I'm gonna say. [2448] 01:21:19.220 --> 01:21:20.860 So it's all. I have three kids, [2449] 01:21:21.360 --> 01:21:21.580 and they were all in the [2450] 01:21:22.080 --> 01:21:22.980 professional performing arts. [2451] 01:21:23.380 --> 01:21:25.139 So they were all professional [2452] 01:21:25.639 --> 01:21:27.460 performers. You know, musical. [2453] 01:21:28.500 --> 01:21:29.820 You know, like lead roles in [2454] 01:21:30.320 --> 01:21:30.940 musicals and things like that. [2455] 01:21:31.440 --> 01:21:32.220 Not, not children's theater, [2456] 01:21:32.720 --> 01:21:33.540 professional theater, theater. [2457] 01:21:34.820 --> 01:21:38.170 And. And my son, when he [2458] 01:21:38.670 --> 01:21:40.650 was 12, he was the lead in the [2459] 01:21:41.150 --> 01:21:43.210 Children of Eden. And there's a [2460] 01:21:43.710 --> 01:21:45.090 song. And then my other kids [2462] 01:21:46.870 --> 01:21:49.090 it. He was 10. They wanted to [2463] 01:21:49.590 --> 01:21:50.650 put my daughter in it, but she [2464] 01:21:51.150 --> 01:21:52.050 was too small for the costumes. [2465] 01:21:52.210 --> 01:21:53.970 The costumes were from Broadway, [2466] 01:21:54.290 --> 01:21:56.490 so it was the Los Angeles Lyric [2467] 01:21:56.990 --> 01:21:58.010 Opera, I think, that put that [2468] 01:21:58.510 --> 01:22:01.010 on. And there's one song there [2469] 01:22:01.480 --> 01:22:02.760 that's called the Hardest Part [2470] 01:22:03.260 --> 01:22:05.800 of Love. And the text is, [2471] 01:22:07.000 --> 01:22:08.640 you know, you cannot close the [2472] 01:22:09.140 --> 01:22:11.360 acorn once the oak begins to [2473] 01:22:11.860 --> 01:22:13.640 grow. And you cannot close your [2474] 01:22:14.140 --> 01:22:15.400 heart to what it feels it needs [2475] 01:22:15.900 --> 01:22:17.560 to know. And the hardest part of [2476] 01:22:18.060 --> 01:22:19.720 [2477] 01:22:20.220 --> 01:22:21.560 so I got my kids in this show, [2478] 01:22:21.720 --> 01:22:23.520 right? And it's just stuck with [2479] 01:22:24.020 --> 01:22:25.320 me all these years. And this [2480] 01:22:25.820 --> 01:22:28.220 was. This wasn't like. Like, [2481] 01:22:28.380 --> 01:22:31.100 we're talking year 2000 or 19, [2482] 01:22:31.420 --> 01:22:34.500 actually 1998, 1999, when they [2483] 01:22:35.000 --> 01:22:35.700 did that show. So my kids were [2484] 01:22:36.200 --> 01:22:37.740 still little, but it's so true, [2485] 01:22:38.240 --> 01:22:39.820 right? Because the kids are that [2486] 01:22:40.320 --> 01:22:41.700 acorn. And when they, you know [2487] 01:22:42.200 --> 01:22:43.460 that the trip against the. You [2488] 01:22:43.960 --> 01:22:45.780 can't. You have to just, you [2489] 01:22:46.280 --> 01:22:47.100 know, you. You try and make them [2490] 01:22:47.600 --> 01:22:48.260 strong, and the text is all [2491] 01:22:48.760 --> 01:22:49.380 about you make them strong. And [2493] 01:22:51.240 --> 01:22:53.500 off, right? And. And that is [2494] 01:22:54.000 --> 01:22:55.180 means that you succeeded because [2495] 01:22:55.680 --> 01:22:56.420 they're flapping their wings and [2496] 01:22:56.920 --> 01:22:57.460 they're flying off on their own. [2497] 01:22:57.960 --> 01:22:59.500 But. But it's also the hardest [2498] 01:23:00.000 --> 01:23:01.420 thing to do is to let go. The [2499] 01:23:01.920 --> 01:23:03.540 hardest part of love is to let [2500] 01:23:04.040 --> 01:23:05.420 go and let that other person fly [2501] 01:23:05.920 --> 01:23:07.820 free. And even in relationships, [2502] 01:23:08.320 --> 01:23:09.980 that's hard. Yes. Yeah. [2503] 01:23:10.860 --> 01:23:13.100 Beautiful. Thank you so much for [2504] 01:23:13.820 --> 01:23:16.180 those great songs and thank you [2505] 01:23:16.680 --> 01:23:17.180 so much for your time and [2506] 01:23:17.680 --> 01:23:18.460 sharing everything with us. [2507] 01:23:18.960 --> 01:23:21.060 This has really been quite [2509] 01:23:24.480 --> 01:23:25.140 time to cue the music for [2510] 01:23:25.640 --> 01:23:26.900 today's episode, but don't [2511] 01:23:27.400 --> 01:23:27.860 forget to, like, comment and [2512] 01:23:28.360 --> 01:23:29.020 subscribe to the Drop the Needle [2513] 01:23:29.520 --> 01:23:30.500 podcast Podcast to stay up to [2514] 01:23:31.000 --> 01:23:33.180 date on our latest episodes. I [2515] 01:23:33.680 --> 01:23:35.540 would also like to take a moment [2516] 01:23:36.040 --> 01:23:37.700 to thank our very special guest, [2517] 01:23:38.020 --> 01:23:40.740 Dr. Lottie Valentin, for being [2518] 01:23:41.240 --> 01:23:43.140 with us today. Lottie, can you [2519] 01:23:43.380 --> 01:23:45.419 do me a favor and please let our [2520] 01:23:45.919 --> 01:23:46.460 listeners know how to get in [2521] 01:23:46.960 --> 01:23:48.940 touch with you? Yes, the easiest [2522] 01:23:49.440 --> 01:23:50.900 way is to go to my website, Dr. [2523] 01:23:51.620 --> 01:23:54.940 [2524] 01:23:55.440 --> 01:23:56.350 and on there you can. Can [2525] 01:23:56.850 --> 01:23:57.950 schedule a session, work me with [2526] 01:23:58.450 --> 01:24:01.070 me one on one, or also join my [2527] 01:24:01.570 --> 01:24:02.110 newsletter, because that's how [2528] 01:24:02.610 --> 01:24:03.190 you're going to stay up to date [2529] 01:24:03.690 --> 01:24:04.790 on everything that's happening [2530] 01:24:05.290 --> 01:24:06.470 and courses that I teach, etc, [2531] 01:24:07.270 --> 01:24:09.590 So I hope to see you all there. [2532] 01:24:10.070 --> 01:24:12.070 Fantastic. Thank you for that. [2533] 01:24:12.630 --> 01:24:14.310 All right, my Drop the Needle [2534] 01:24:14.810 --> 01:24:15.550 posse. Like Billy Joel says, [2535] 01:24:16.050 --> 01:24:16.910 from the highs to the lows to [2536] 01:24:17.410 --> 01:24:19.270 the end of our show, this is the [2537] 01:24:19.770 --> 01:24:21.550 end of our show. Thank you [2538] 01:24:22.050 --> 01:24:23.640 again, again for being the best [2540] 01:24:25.880 --> 01:24:26.520 Thank you.